But you've dropped too many newbtells to be believable anymore.
He's so much of a newbie that he must be scum?
Holy terrible logic, Jokerman!
You should be one to speak! You've had terrible logic on every target you've had. And, it's odd, because you pick some people and go after them, but your scumlist comprises a guy who hadn't posted the entire game before those people.
Vector, you were in my first game too. You, personally, voted and killed me for dropping one scumtell when I buddied Janus.
I remember it distinctly because I hated you deeply for it.
You can't be that much of a newbie that you drop every tell in the book.
Just wondering--were you scum at the time?
To make this completely clear, I've seen newbies drop tell after tell after tell, and generally after you scream at them for a while they shape up and turn into exemplary townies. That's why I'm not jumping into the middle of this enormous... thing... right now. My suspicion is that we have two newbies being torn new ones by Zai and various other people--so they may be scum or town, but at the moment this is just them learning to play the game.
Also, Webadict is scum.
See, that last comment you've yet to retract, and you're gonna have to die because of it. You're making a baseless accusation that you won't back up with anything substantial.
I think I officially suspect Webadict, ToonyMan, SirBayer, and Pandarsenic.
Especially the first two.
I lol'd at this list. It's just so contrived that you know it's fake. I mean, you couldn't put in some suspicious people to go with this? I mean, I understand you're scum, but at least WIFOM a little.
By the way, remember that you "SUSPECT" SirBayer, and hence this is why you're voting for him.
You officially suspect people? That's hilarious! There's also a scumteam of four people. That's pretty impressive.
Yeah, yeah, BLUH BLUH HUGE DICK.
Moving on... I can suspect more than a scumteam's worth, and you're sidelining hard. You basically aren't playing the game at this point. You come in, defend yourself, make these feeble little attacks, and... nothing.
Really, Webadict? Is this all you have in you?
It's not all I have. I just needed you to say that so I can burn you pretty badly when I got to this.
No, I'm not scared. I'm currently voting Bayer, since he hasn't shown up to play the goddamned game.
I'm also in the middle of reapplying to college, which is an enormous mess.
See, this is a REALLY weak attack. You're attacking a lurker. A LURKER. Just remember this.
Well, Elegy's been both reasonable and totally non-suspicious, unvote and vote Vector. Care to give a reason for these "official" suspicions?
Never going to live that diction down.
Anyway, to say it again: I don't like Webby's sidelining, and even though he's back he still feels off to me. Similar for ToonyMan. There's a lot of "here I am keeping out of the action" going on--and though I'll admit that I haven't been posting as much as I should, I'm not cluttering things up with inanities like "Mr.Person has his game face as usual."
Pandarsenic is also out of things, but he tends to sideline more than Web or Toony, so he's lower on the suspicions list.
Question: How can you be reasonably suspicious of someone who has yet to post?
He was last active Sep. 12th, around when the game started. He didn't even RVS. That implies a passive disposition ill-fitting in someone who tends to be as... active-minded? as Bayer. I don't mean that he's the most active player. What I mean is that he tends to jump onto the easy parts of Mafia rather eagerly, and I see this as unusual behavior from him.
What it looks like is that he got his PM, and then decided to let everyone else argue.
Anyway:
Eduren, please prod SirBayer.
Unvote. ToonyMan, who do you suspect, why, and why haven't you been actively questioning those individuals?
LOL! He's PASSIVE FOR NOT PLAYING WHEN THE GAME STARTED?!? HE HASN'T BEEN ACTIVE SINCE THEN! HE'S CLEARLY LURKING! Perhaps he didn't know it was starting from NOT GETTING A PM!
HAHAHAHAHAHA! SO YOU'RE STILL SUSPICIOUS OF HIM!
Really. So... you're saying that this guy just looked at his inbox and just didn't bother? I mean, that's totally scummy, but it's also the single-most unprovable suspicion you've got. I mean, sure, he's not posting, but that doesn't make someone scum.
A suspicion is a suspicion.
Unless, of course, your lack of posting is an indication of your scummitude? I mean, you tend to post fair amounts, but you're not. Using your logic, you just looked at your inbox and figured you'd activelurk. What with your unusual posting style, that means you're scum.
I have been posting. I haven't been posting as much as I should have been, and as such I am currently rectifying the situation. Bayer got his two days, and now it's time to get on someone else's case.
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I just... It's such a weak attack that you refuse to admit that attacking a lurker for not logging into the game is weak. Horribly so.
Right, so you're saying that somebody who has yet to post (And is therefore a null player) is one of your suspicions. Which can hardly be convincing for the rest of your list. I mean, who would take that seriously?
Yes, I suspect him. Who do you want me to suspect, Webadict? Would you feel better if I cooked up a pretty case for Zai?
Or are you having problems because I hit the scumteam on the head?
I also like your little maneuver to generate a lack of confidence in my list. Clever, but no thanks.
Day 1 here people.
I don't give a soaring screw about it being D1. You're scum.
I'd have to push you on your suspicions, mostly because they make so little sense! You're going after me, someone who has yet to post, ToonyMan the crazy, and Pandarsenic.
Hahaha, you can't HIT the scumteam on the head with a four-player guess. And does it look like Im freaking out about your list? Nah, I'm just letting you hang yourself.
Your lack of confidence is due to you not having a good case for anyone but maybe ToonyMan. Maybe. I would understand greatly if you had no confidence at all, actually, because it's like you just randomized the entire thing and said screw the evidence, I've got rules.
Besides the fact that you're doing everything you're accusing your suspicions of doing, you're also only using evidence you gather from me defending myself as minimal effort to come up with a poorly contrived attack. I think that you need a little break before you come back here and try to WIFOM everyone into not voting your scummy self.
I can't hang myself, because no one is voting for me. I have a good case for Toony and hell, that's all I need right now--if I can hit one member of the scumteam, then I can worry about the others tomorrow.
If you want me dead, Webby, then come vote me. Don't just sit around being insulting, make a case. Do something. You aren't the fish I'm trying to fry right now... that comes D2.
I WAS making a case. That was the whole point. It was to get you to give me more before I voted you.
No, I still think you're scum. I don't think I've been playing as badly as you or ToonyMan, but I do feel bad about some of the sidelining I've been doing. I definitely think I've been more involved, in general, than either of you.
It's just that you can wait for tomorrow. Toony is for today.
If you've been more involved, then why is it that YOU have three votes, and I have... 0? 1? Something a lot smaller. I mean, I can't be playing badly enough to have a critical lead on , that's for sure.
@Webby:
To be more specific, at this point it just seems that you're making noise for the sake of making noise.
Despite the fact that I've been pointing out everything you've done, WHICH YOU ADMIT TO, you think that I'm just making noise? Despite you acknowledging it?
...
No, I'm saying that you're on my suspect list, and that I'm going to deal with you D2. This isn't "I'll get back to you tomorrow," it's "you aren't my priority right now." ToonyMan and SirBayer are the ones I'm worried most about, despite your scummy reek.
If you're going to secure my lynch, then you'll have to do a better job. I don't feel very threatened right now.
That's funny, I'm pretty sure I'd feel pretty threatened at 3 votes. It might encourage me to stop acting like scum and participate.
1. Lame
2. Couldn't find no one else to push as well or anyone to question?
It was more like I went "Man, gotta keep the pressure on Bayer! I'll chip in a little, but my vote stays here so he'll actually have to come out!" and then later I went "... Oh... wait. Not productive. Time to figure out who I think is scum."
Also, extension.
Except you STILL THOUGHT HE WAS SCUMMY! Which means it's not about being productive, it was about you looking Town when you unvoted.
Wait, earlier you said you thought SirBayer was lurking intentionally. Now you're saying that you just wanted SirBayer to talk. I'm confused.
Blorgh. This is why thinking is a problem.
1. I voted SirBayer, because it was RVS.
2. I argued a little, but didn't go voting people--because I was waiting on Bayer and by golly, I was going to get him to come out.
3. I kept on waiting on Bayer. This is when I started sidelining/lurking a little (Sep. 13th)
4. I published my "official scum list" and moved my vote to Toony, putting Bayer on the scumlist for previously mentioned reasons and wondering if he was lurking intentionally.
5. Cue enormous fight with Webby.
Why aren't you voting Webadict again Vector?
Because I'm voting you, and you're being more blatantly scummy. Sorry, I'm not going to take my vote off of you to pop it onto Webface.
Probably because you're not going to get away with putting a vote on me.
But, now that the extension is in, let's lynch that backtracking, hypocritical, lying Vector.
I haven't lied or backtracked. The only hypocrisy I have engaged in is to vote for someone on scumtells which I, too, have exhibited to a lesser degree.
You're either lying or backtracking. It's one or the other.
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