Erk, whole post before going offline got wiped, and I resume it this morning to see this.
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Unvote, as I don't think abc's rep can answer questions about how abc posted.
Still:
abculatter_2's Replacement: Could you give your reasoning on abc's/Fiskav's posts
PFP, reading it again.
Tiruin: You're replacing in for someone I felt was scum D1. What's your quick take on the reasons everyone had for voting thier target D1?
Everyone believed they were right in laying down their votes for those people, and let them stick until their feelings on those people were clarified by their responses.
Tiruin, what's your opinion of Flying Dice's case on Chaos Armor?
He's trying to implicate CA on a probability, and based partly off wrong (or how I see it) reasoning stated below.
1. Overreaction? You asked me what I saw in an OMGUS that makes someone look scummy, and I gave you an abbreviated answer because a good chunk of it is held in the definition of the term. You asked me a pointless question, and it felt like you were trying to buddy up on me by not pushing me hard. That is a mildly irritating waste of time, as I respond to all questions, even stupid ones. That might be okay in RVS, but we're in D2 with scum to catch and you're faffing around.
2. Please tell me that FoS was for something other than providing detailed quote-evidence. I get rather sick of people referencing posts without including context, and it tends to muddy the waters. Only scum want to create confusion, and providing the full context for an exchange helps remove confusion, as does providing the post number. Why do you want to make people have to waste time digging back through the game to find relevant quotes? Wouldn't that time be better spent scumhunting?
3. I considered BMC's first vote on Deathsword because HE LITERALLY VOTED HIM IN THE VERY NEXT CONTENT POST AFTER BEING FoSED BY HIM. They were pushing each other over stupid crap in RVS; then Chaos Armor voted BMC because he was being a little suspiciousp; then Deathsword FoSed BMC; then BMC voted Deathsword. They had been going at each other for dozens of posts, but BMC only voted Deathsword after he was voted and FoSed, and it looked like a textbook OMGUS to me; voting someone who just pressured/FoSed/Voted you to try and get them to back off.
4. As above, I'm accusing CA of starting a bandwagon because he voted BMC for the little scrap of evidence that typically starts RVS votes and then never followed up. The initial vote might have been reasonable, but conveniently ignoring the investigation and the game until after the lynch isn't.
Between the point where he voted for BMC and the point where BMC was mislynched, CA made ONE post with any sort of content, and his response to BMC was essentially "Lol I'm pressuring you, now answer my question the way I want you to, kthxbai. I never said that CA joined a bandwagon, I said that he was bandwagoning, which in this case meant starting one for little reason and letting it run out of control without bothering to do any more scumhunting. That looks scummy as all hell to me; it says that he didn't care who got lynched as long as someone did. In my case, I held off until I had what I felt was enough evidence to justify a vote; I may be in a less opportune place on the voting chart, but if it is because I bothered to do something approaching a proper investigation, I don't really care.
Do you need anything else clarified?
Hm, from the looks of this (and earlier point on CA), I'd say you're attacking him on the weak reason that he
started a bandwagon.
That is...so wrong.
Firstly, one cannot start a bandwagon with one's self only.
Secondly, it shan't be a bandwagon unless other people vote, and yet this is but a probability as it is based on how victim reacts - i.e. your term of inertia-lynch, which does not relate to
how CA is scummy in that manner.
Thirdly, from what I think of it, and from your list, you think I'm
buddying you? Ahahahahahahahahahhahaha.
No.
Tell me, how did you conclude such?
Fourthly, that FoS was because of your claim on OMGUS > BMC. While, yes, he did vote after being FoS'd, he FoS'd Deathsword first.
"[...]but BMC only voted Deathsword after he was voted and FoSed, and it looked like a textbook OMGUS to me; voting someone who just pressured/FoSed/Voted you to try and get them to back off."
And here you get it wrong. BMC cast his suspicions on Deathy
here, the one you quoted by the way.
Lastly, on CA,
Between the point where he voted for BMC and the point where BMC was mislynched, CA made ONE post with any sort of content, and his response to BMC was essentially "Lol I'm pressuring you, now answer my question the way I want you to, kthxbai. I never said that CA joined a bandwagon, I said that he was bandwagoning, which in this case meant starting one for little reason and letting it run out of control without bothering to do any more scumhunting. That looks scummy as all hell to me; it says that he didn't care who got lynched as long as someone did. In my case, I held off until I had what I felt was enough evidence to justify a vote; I may be in a less opportune place on the voting chart, but if it is because I bothered to do something approaching a proper investigation, I don't really care.
not really. He didn't go all "NO U" on the pressure, but stated what he thought about BMC.
Besides, if you've that much fervor for CA, then why not
vote him?