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Author Topic: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1935 Production  (Read 99651 times)

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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Design
« Reply #1755 on: August 29, 2015, 01:52:57 pm »

@Evilcherry: While it's armament might be similar, I doubt we'd be able to slap on the transport capability on the first go.
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« Reply #1756 on: August 29, 2015, 02:00:15 pm »

@Evilcherry: While it's armament might be similar, I doubt we'd be able to slap on the transport capability on the first go.
And? Its just a large boot. Or we can tell our soldiers to ride atop them like the Russians.

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« Reply #1757 on: August 29, 2015, 02:04:37 pm »

The latter sounds more moskurg, so let's do that :P
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« Reply #1758 on: August 29, 2015, 02:25:39 pm »

I'm concerned about the weight and restrictiveness of personal armor, especially considering we don't have the materials technology to actually stop a rifle round at typical engagement ranges without weighing our troops down with vehicle-tier armor. If we want to improve our close-quarters, I think new small arms are the answer. Maybe a bullpup/carbine edition of the MK-47 that also tries to address its stability issues?

Too little too late and probably national effort.

You're probably right.

If GM rectified his mistake (our 3.6in should outrange and outdamage every gun on ground) we can just make the Jagdbreaker.

He seems to be wary of retcons, but with Arstotzka's radio thing maybe this'll go in too. If it does, I think I'd go Jagdbreaker.

The latter sounds more moskurg, so let's do that :P

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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Design
« Reply #1759 on: August 29, 2015, 02:34:11 pm »

MK-47 is not a proper assault rifle. We need to use smaller bullets to make it work. I proposed to downscale it but it found zero support.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Design
« Reply #1760 on: August 29, 2015, 03:11:33 pm »

Couldnt we just reduce the amount of powder we load into the rounds? Problem solved.
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« Reply #1761 on: August 29, 2015, 03:13:06 pm »

Not an option, given that cutting the powder load reduces the velocity of the rounds.
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« Reply #1762 on: August 29, 2015, 03:19:04 pm »

I thought that was UKs original idea. Of course we could just use it as a mid-long range battle rifle.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Design
« Reply #1763 on: August 29, 2015, 03:21:29 pm »

Just throwing this out there, don't forget that we have the opportunity to get a free design credit if we can make better propaganda than Arstotzka.
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« Reply #1764 on: August 29, 2015, 03:23:08 pm »

Who's going to make it though?

Also, I'm not sure about this, but would it be possible to modify the MK-47 to use a smaller round with just a revision?
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« Reply #1765 on: August 29, 2015, 03:24:11 pm »

We need that credit, or we have lost. We cant fight them if they get two designs.
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« Reply #1766 on: August 29, 2015, 03:33:57 pm »

Also, I'm not sure about this, but would it be possible to modify the MK-47 to use a smaller round with just a revision?
I think it is rather simple. Make it 20% shorter, 20% narrower, 20% lower. Do the same with the bullet. 
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Design
« Reply #1767 on: August 29, 2015, 03:34:37 pm »

Leopard Assault Car
A four wheel-drive off road car, designed to be highly agile regardless of terrain. It's got enough RHS all round to be immune to arstotzkan autocannon rounds, and is heavily sloped on all sides, in order to deflect all but square-on RPG rounds, and if we're lucky, AS-T25 tank rounds as well. It is armed with a front gimballed Sorraia, and a turreted miniaturised Breaker cannon, with coaxial Sorraia. It has a crew of two (driver and commander/gunner/radio op) and is fitted with a radio.


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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Design
« Reply #1768 on: August 29, 2015, 03:37:48 pm »

Also, I'm not sure about this, but would it be possible to modify the MK-47 to use a smaller round with just a revision?
I think it is rather simple. Make it 20% shorter, 20% narrower, 20% lower. Do the same with the bullet. 
Eh, we don't need to cut the round that much. 10% for the round is enough.
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« Reply #1769 on: August 29, 2015, 03:48:50 pm »

0.9*0.9*0.9 is roughly 72% of weight. It is not enough. MK-47 will still weight too much for an assault rifle. 0.8*0.8*0.8 is roughly 50% of weight giving us Assault rifle with comfortable weight and bullet comparable to modern assault rifles.
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