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Author Topic: How Would One Reduce Inequality?  (Read 31370 times)

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How Would One Reduce Inequality?
« on: October 16, 2012, 03:03:18 pm »

On the governmental level?

While not trying to be too specific and limit things, how would we *clears throat* "...assure both the children of top earners and bottom dwellers alike start on the same relative line..."?  How could we create a meritocracy and what would the challenges be?

This, of course, assumes that a parents deeds should have no effect on the child's oppertunity, something I may not entirely agree with...
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Re: How Would One Reduce Inequality?
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2012, 03:06:23 pm »

You'd have to take everyone's child away at birth and raise them in a commune, where the opportunities are all equal.  All new babies would need to be anonymized to prevent rich people from finding out who their children are. 

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Other than that, its probably not possible.  Although it could be fun if the governments decided you can only inherit 1 mil tops, and the rest goes to the government.
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Re: How Would One Reduce Inequality?
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2012, 03:11:27 pm »

Yeah you'd have to essentially destroy the entire concept of inheritance.
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Re: How Would One Reduce Inequality?
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2012, 03:11:39 pm »

Inheritance cap wouldn't solve anything. Would only affect those rich kids whose parents died when they were young. Otherwise, they'll still have massive advantages in educational opportunities, healthcare, etc.

Although I suppose it could put an end to the professional capitalist class of people who do nothing but invest their (inherited) family fortune in the market and make an even bigger fortune. Which is a double-edged sword.
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Re: How Would One Reduce Inequality?
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2012, 03:13:36 pm »

You'd have to take everyone's child away at birth and raise them in a commune, where the opportunities are all equal.  All new babies would need to be anonymized to prevent rich people from finding out who their children are. 

This is basically the only answer. In order for a society to be completely equal, everyone must start out exactly the same way, with absolutely no interference by their genetic parents.

And not to forget that while this would systematically destroy any bias (Or at least Class-based.), it also has the potential to be horribly abused by Countries and Corporations.
« Last Edit: October 16, 2012, 03:17:32 pm by Johnfalcon99977 »
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Re: How Would One Reduce Inequality?
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2012, 03:15:40 pm »

I for one support our child snatching overlords.
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Re: How Would One Reduce Inequality?
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2012, 03:18:04 pm »

I for one, accept our bearded overlords.

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Re: How Would One Reduce Inequality?
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2012, 03:28:02 pm »

I remember one movie about a egalitarian world where everyone was equal because everyone's brain was being supressed using devices making everyone stupid.

Of course it turned out, in the end, that all it did do was create a society controlled by a select elite (An elitist society).

While interesting I hated the movie with a passion mostly for being "Intellectually elitist" (Lets just say... the movie has VERY specific ideas of what is "intelligent").

It would be an interesting watch for you since as you know. Equality in it of itself is not the destination.
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Re: How Would One Reduce Inequality?
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2012, 03:29:24 pm »

Never state ideas like this in public, or else the majority of the USA will declare you a RED COMMIE BASTARD!
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Re: How Would One Reduce Inequality?
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2012, 03:35:56 pm »

Just take a page out of Looking Backwards, have guaranteed employment with everyone being paid the same salary.  Bam, instant equality of opportunity through equality of results.
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Re: How Would One Reduce Inequality?
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2012, 03:43:32 pm »

Just take a page out of Looking Backwards, have guaranteed employment with everyone being paid the same salary.  Bam, instant equality of opportunity through equality of results.
Followed by a collapse of the economy due to a gerenal loss of work ethic.
If your getting the same regardless of job with guaranteed employment why even putting any effort in to your job?
Suddenly everything is half done, bad quaility and or delivered late and the entire economy comes up with a huge problem.

We humans are competitive in nature handing us stuff on a plate with no oppertunity to earn more will lead to problems, crime and a massive black market economy or in other words a place where everyone is equal except the criminals who wind up being the only people with more.
« Last Edit: October 16, 2012, 03:47:18 pm by Jerick »
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Re: How Would One Reduce Inequality?
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2012, 03:47:13 pm »

Haha, it's not the loss of work ethic. Far from it. The problem will come from those complaining they "deserve more."

There is no equal work for equal pay, since no one will agree on what's "equal work."
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Re: How Would One Reduce Inequality?
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2012, 03:49:14 pm »

Haha, it's not the loss of work ethic. Far from it. The problem will come from those complaining they "deserve more."

There is no equal work for equal pay, since no one will agree on what's "equal work."

Plus some work requires more resources then others.
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Re: How Would One Reduce Inequality?
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2012, 03:51:27 pm »

I'd switch jobs to puppy entertainer.  Play with puppies all day long!

Either that or strip club critic...  Hard choice.
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Re: How Would One Reduce Inequality?
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2012, 03:52:29 pm »

While it a goal to ensure that everyone has oppertunity, the key point is relative equality.  Clearly we cannot steal childrens and start a goblin fortress.  That's why its in a fantasy game. 
But we could  _____. (equalize taxes? raise min. wage? improve school funding or other socialistic forces(healthcare)?

Never state ideas like this in public, or else the majority of the USA will declare you a RED COMMIE BASTARD!

 And the idea of equality is a communist axis. Because an 'evil' supports something does not mean it is without merit.
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