I'm getting tired of quoting these posts section by section. Thus, a quick note: this post is mostly built around
this post of Irony's.I set up an argument against Irony for twisting NUKE's words. Irony's defense has been to twist my words. Amazing.
For example, Irony seems to have discovered that I used the words "glaringly obvious" once. For example, apparently I said I know the entirety of NUKE's plan, in depth, because I said I was only bringing up the glaringly obvious. In addition, apparently, saying I'm only bringing up the glaringly obvious is the same thing as saying that NUKE's entire plan is glaringly obvious.
Or, to put it differently, Irony has taken the words "glaringly obvious", and somehow used them to say that I know NUKE's entire plan and why he brought it up, completely ignoring the context of the words.
Yay.
I know what I read, and I know the obvious context they were in (that is to say, what day they were on, and when during that day, and what was said around them). What Irony and I were starting to get in to was a somewhat deeper exploration of the plan. Now Irony's saying that the results we got in that deeper exploration, which had never been brought up before the "glaringly obvious" comment, are proof that I...was lying about knowing NUKE's entire plan or something?
Oh, and the doctor thing? It's obvious enough that this happened D1 in response to Zrk2's claim:
Nuke I didn't think Zrk2 was being serious with that post honestly. I mean he hasn't played in awhile, but EVERYONE knows not to claim doc D1.
Look, you've played Beginner's Mafia before. You understand that a doctor should not claim until lylo (and in fact is probably the worst role to claim possible, since it gives the town no information and tells the scum who they can safely kill).
Claiming straight doc is not only unwise, but uncreative.
Nuke:
WHY. WOULD. YOU. ROLECLAIM. DOCTOR.
Refuge in Audacity?
And again, I don't consider Irony scummy for asking questions. I find him scummy because he twists words, and he seems to care a bit much about not looking like he's OMGUSing.
Finally, I have not been trying to make NUKE look non-malicious. I've been trying to deal with Irony twisting words. Irony wants this all to be seen as me defending NUKE from his accusations, and has tried to turn it into that from the start. Frankly, I'm getting rather tired of that.
IronyOwl: So, just to clarify, you're saying that you think FoSing or voting for me wouldn't have been productive, but that you thought just saying I'm scum without doing either would've been?
Jim: You seem to be completely missing my extremely large, underlined point. The big problem isn't that he didn't do it, but that he didn't do it
to avoid an accusation of OMGUSing. That's the big problem.
MBP:Jack, How about stopping using broad generalisation stupidly ? I'm pretty sure you are actually able to read what i said. Try again.
Okay...on to the interpretation that I thought was too stupid to be true. Correct me if this is wrong: You said you didn't consider yourself to have screwed up, and that's not why you killed Leafsnail. You then said that you killed Leafsnail to avoid being lynched by the town...due to Leafsnail's AWESOME SUPER-CHARISMA POWERS. I assumed that any lynch would require even the slightest bit of evidence to back it up, but you're saying you consider Leafsnail to have AWESOME SUPER-CHARISMA POWERS that allow him to ignore that.
...Still confused.
My answer to them clearly do not have impact on his vote choice, but then again it's expected, he admitted earlier that he did not have any intention of moving his vote anyway.
Where did Irony say that? Because I've been arguing with Irony for a while now and the closest I've seen to that was an "I don't particularly want my vote elsewhere
at the moment" comment.