What, expecting me to answer? How about this: I'll tell you what my role isn't. For Day 1: Seto Kaiba. That is, that's not my role.
Now, the question is, whether you're scum trying to get role information out of this, or town trying to see how I react to blatant role fishing.
...
On a player who made an answer you think is scummy. Yes, within reason. More pressure means more slipping up, but I wouldn't want somebody to be hammered or lynched based on RVS votes.
Return question: Do you think what I just said is true?
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I think that's all the questions addressed to me. Did I miss any?
This post is fucking useless, except for moving to shut down the daygame.
With regards to playing RVS, sure, it exists. But your answers are nauseating and unhelpful, and indicate a non-town mentality if anything at all.
I say this because:
1) You redirect game attention towards yourself, without generating new content.
1.5) Your new questions force (as it were) responses to yourself without producing the opportunity for you to be read
2) Introducing WIFOM about
your answers to an intentions based RVS question does literally nothing to move the day forward and does a lot to hold it back - WIFOM
negates and baffles activity to which it is attached, which is why you can attach it to strong and coherent information like role/power claims in order to force players to make judgements about important mechanical positions and considerations. Attaching it to RVS questions which exist only to legitimize in part future meta-reads on your behavior does nothing besides attempt to make yourself more unreadable and add the title of 'WIFOMing, obfuscating asshole' to your rap sheet. As a wifoming, obfuscating asshole myself, let me just say that this label is ANTI-TOWN and AGAINST YOUR INTERESTS if you want there to be content in the game; it is something you accept as a side result of very productive posts and lines of inquiry, not something you should revel in.
FoU
There's no need to scumhunt me, I'm dying by my own hand before D2.
Go do something productive instead.
If you're still alive D2, everybody's going to come after you hard. Including me. With that said... if you don't get suspicious, I'll be fine putting you onto a lower priority.
That said, saying "don't scum hunt me" is pretty suspicious... if not exactly suspicious in a normal manner.
*muses* Jester gambit?
Wowee, you sure did show me your ability to contribute to the game by stating the absolute obvious and
still managing to cast shade on a player you have no need to.
This is active lurking, or, more accurately, a refuge in worthless content. You aren't getting anything out of me by the effort of this post, as it were, so you really aren't doing anything for your knowledge here. You're establishing your position, sure, but
it's the default position.If you've got nothing more to say than 'btw guys I'm not scum' I'm inclined to say you don't really care to try to catch scum i.e. you are scum.
Return question: What do you think of question stealing(answering somebody else's question)? Does it benefit the town? Fuel RVS?
Seriously, RVS questions after your first post? Is your theme 'Stalling the daygame to death', by any chance?
Or do you just not care about moving into analysis?
(hint: the initial crop of RVS is so other players can
analyze your content. RVS is content. You can do analysis as soon as someone posts an RVS question)
One that scum would make...circular. Try again, me.
An answer written from scum's perspective. One that makes assumptions that only scum would make. Inherent knowledge that scum has, reflexively used as part of the question's answer in a subtle manner.
Of course, the difficulty in finding scum in this manner is that scum are trying to act like town, and clues of that type may be hard to detect. However...
In order to act like town, hypothetically, scum players would have to do more thinking to answer a question. Looking for a question that's well thought out... no, that has less spontaneity to it, could also be scummy.
Wowee, theory. Not like we're trying to find scum this day, guys, let's RVS on about theory
without relating it to a discrete event in this day.There's a reason theory is encouraged in RVS
questions.
It's because this is useless.
Maybe it lets players read you more.
Guess what I can read?
You aren't scum-hunting.
Fallacy: For the first question, I generally don't consider actual scum voting to be part of RVS, but sure. [1] For the second question, pressure on the target can be helpful, but the reactions of those around can be quite interesting as well.
FallacyofUrist: Perhaps something changed in the last few months, but when I last played, there was a social norm against question stealing. [2] What does violating that norm mean to you when you examine a player's behaviour?
[1]: I would imagine so. Hm. I'll have to remember that.
[2]: Nothing, really. It gets more information out there. Well, actually, doing that means you're answering more questions and whatnot. Being active. I'd actually apply a slight town lean to that behavior.
I mean, you're not wrong here but you're literally as stock as you can get.
And it's a conversation you're already in, so you'd be suspicious for not contributing, not towny for doing so.
In other words, wowee.
And don't ask me why I'm not using it on doll in response, because I'm answering that now: because doll has claimed she'll be dead D2. If she's not, you can expect(most likely) that my vote will go right onto her.
Wowee, you can
telegraph the
most obvious sequence of events in the world.
You also fail to mention that you
shouldn't be voting me and you seem to be wary of my claim.
That is, wary as in you are scum wondering if I'm trapping you.
I say this, because if you were town you wouldn't care at all that I'm doing all this because I'm giving myself up on D2 if I'm not legit and if I am legit it's pretty hard to think I'd be non-town with the mere goal of reaching D2.
Also, I can't be a jester because
jesters don't exist.I triple dog dare you to follow up on that. (I'll kill anyone who does, I'm not even joking)
Now, it is a bit early, for the most part, to comment on alignment.
Post a full reads list, strongly preferably on your next post.
Typically it's just "these are what mafia is" "don't act like an idiot" etc etc.
NYAHAHAHA!
Now, from the top:
1. What games are going to be hosted soon.
2. New player stuff, you can skip this.
3. Mafia setup discussion and review, for mods.
4. I'll get back to this one.
5. Ah, lurkertracker. The thing that you zap a thread with and it tells you who's lurking, no searching needed. Also counts votes. Mafia Tools and Utilities.
6. New player stuff.
I'd recommend you take a look at 4. Notable Games Archive. Start by reading the BYOR section. It's funny.
But what if I am lazy in terms of reading extra effects ! I tend to phase in and out of threads of games I'm in while doing work or other things... Having to read other threads outside the game thread means I'll be distracted !
You aren't expected to spend one hundred percent of your time on a single mafia game. And you don't have to read all of the BYORs. Start with one, preferably a shorter one with more of the players that are here. It's not mandatory, but it might be helpful to understand how webadict BYORs generally work.
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