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[UXLZ]

Mm... I guess it isn't really that special, so you can quote it here if you wish.

[Cheeetar]

If you intended to PM me, it didn't go through.

[UXLZ]

Oh, I might have forgotten an e.

[pisskop]

Deus

Pisskop, what was the reason for the differences in your PMs? How did you decide who got which one?

I sent them at different times to different people with whom I'd varying levels of trust/interaction with.  The differences between the two are the two questions.


Cheetar

Everyone: Don't just jump into the bandwagon because you feel obliged to be making a vote. Remember to actually play Mafia- examine if the person you're voting for is somebody you think is scummy, not just somebody that is agreeably scummy amongst the general playerbase.
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I am actually quite surprised with how quickly the DS wagon formed.  I am interested to see his flip now, as a reference for this site.  Keeing in mind that everyone has PM, including scums, I wonder how that will reflect . . .

Pisskop: You offered to post PMs of why you think Flabort is town. What does this have to do with me wanting to vote for you? (Also: Your strongly 'suspecting' that somebody is detective means nothing to us. Either somebody has claimed to you, or you're making it up. You have nothing to work off except what people have told you, and unless you want to say that I have no reason to believe there's a detective.)

Additionally: Why send different people different PMs?

Your response is one that suggests one of two things.  I choose to believe you reacted in a relatively town way.  As explained above, I sent out two waves of PMs, to people with which I enjoyed differing levels of communication.

Letting somebody live because they're a high priority target for a nightkill (assuming they're telling the truth) is not optimal, because it leaves open the possibility for scum to leave them alive to draw our suspicion to them, and they can also argue that they were left alive purely so scum would have an easy lynch the following day. At the time, I saw Flabort as the scummiest player, and I wasn't going to let his weird silly claim get in the way of my wanting to lynch him.

Are you opposed to giving him the chance to verify his claim? If you were scum and you believed flabort's claim, what would you do?

Be the one keeping him alive so I can whisper in his ear on who to kill to prove his towniness.

  That only works if he thinks you yourself are town.

-Cheetar, why are/were you willing to compromise with a TDS lynch?

[Tiruin]

Dear kittens. Stuff happened over the weekend (coincidentally, when I promise to make a post + D1 RVS questions + recounting over the posts)--time to catch up on the...uhh..10 or so pages?

._.

[flabort]

Stuff keeps happening in my inbox and I'm not sure I like it all. 

[ToonyMan]

My laptop battery is dying, and a blizzard is going to shut down everything in my area tomorrow (go New England winters) so let's make this quick.

Vote TDS, I'd be less comfortable with a shakerag lynch, since TDS has actually done stuff I've viewed scummy, rather than simply being scarce.

Lazy lazy lazy lazy lazy lazy

Stuff keeps happening in my inbox and I'm not sure I like it all. 

This is making me feel very lonely. Nobody wants to PM me. :[

Okay, yep, TDStar, you have a few things to answer for.

Guys we gotta lynch 4maskwolf, oh wait he's replacing out let's find someone else to bandwagon.

Guys we gotta lynch Deathsword, oh wait he's replacing out let's find someone else to wagonband.

Guys we gotta lynch TheDarkStar, oh wait...

[Tiruin]

Stuff keeps happening in my inbox and I'm not sure I like it all. 

This is making me feel very lonely. Nobody wants to PM me. :[

Same here >_>

PFP arrgghhh this disconnections

[pisskop]

hehe.  we are all sorry we forgot you.

  -Truth be told, allowing people to freely whisper seems to be an invitation to form town-blocs.  Why you no want those?

[flabort]

Stuff keeps happening in my inbox and I'm not sure I like it all. 

This is making me feel very lonely. Nobody wants to PM me. :[

Same here >_>

PFP arrgghhh this disconnections

Didn't I bcc you one?

Anyways, I just got sent a hitlist that contained none of my suspects, but 8 targets. If that wasn't suspicious enough, both of you were on it, and it was pisskop who sent it.

I responded, and His rrply indicated that he does NOT want me killing one of my two targets I chose. Pisskop, why are you buddying shakerag?

PFP so can't quote now, but Tiruin should have recieved the conversation, so she can, maybe. If not, then Jim.

[pisskop]

Poor Flabort

  You'd think I was a regular mafioso the way he talks.  I asked him who he was going to vig.

[pisskop]

EBWOP:

Also I suggested some names.  If Flabort is going to name names I'm going to suggest he also name his handler; the one who is dictating who he will shoot.  Because he has one.

[pisskop]

Spoiler: The conversation, sans names (click to show/hide)

Almost every post of mine you linked to was answered a post or two later.  I'll answer them publicly, but, to me, it looks like you are trying so hard you may not be scum like everyone seems to suggest.  Consider this an attempt to talk to you.
  -Are you town?  You have a certain earnest I expect from a slighted townie
  -

A couple others, as to explain why they didn't warrant blue text:
ToonyMan: LurkerTracker ties him with Deathsword, rates him lower for some reason

What?  I dont understand, having just learned of these programs today.  Both are lurkers, but I haven't tied them together like I have UXLZ/DarkStar.

Almost every post of mine you linked to was answered a post or two later.  I'll answer them publicly, but, to me, it looks like you are trying so hard you may not be scum like everyone seems to suggest.  Consider this an attempt to talk to you.
  -Are you town?  You have a certain earnest I expect from a slighted townie
  -

A couple others, as to explain why they didn't warrant blue text:
ToonyMan: LurkerTracker ties him with Deathsword, rates him lower for some reason

What?  I dont understand, having just learned of these programs today.  Both are lurkers, but I haven't tied them together like I have UXLZ/DarkStar.

Yes, I am town. I actually am a Vig like claimed, and although I feel you are most suspicious right now, I will refrain from killing you tonight; likely because one or the other of us will get lynched today, but also because my kill can be better spent elsewhere, like in my FoS zone.

As far as LurkerTracker tying Toony and Deathsword, they have an equal number of posts. As for rating, it's just that Toony was below Deathsword on the "sort by number of posts" filter; Lurkertracker for some reason decided that Toony was arbitrarily more of a lurker than Deathsword.

Well, if I may be so bold as to suggest somebody, <snip> or <snip> would tickle me.  With a side of <snip>. [and <snip>]

One of us is likely going to die.  But I am town.  4mask figured the odds were in favor in a sample of 4 of 16 containing 1 of the 4 scum.  Statistically, the averages agree.  But the possibility that none of us are scum is strong too.  <snip>

<snip> actually would make a good kill too.  Anyway, best of luck, townie.  I wasn't in favor of lynching you tonight anyway, and don't like the insistence that you do get lynched without an attempt to look elsewhere, but I'd take your death over mine.

What do you think of <snip>?

Sorry, I already picked two potential targets and it's none of those.

As far as <snip>, his posts <reasons>. Not much stands out, but maybe <more reasons>. Nah, he seems fine right now.

Is deathsword's activity consistent with his playstyle?
  He claimed his time was taken up by Operation Overlord, but his posting there is relatively infrequent.  What do you think of his placing out?  How does his unnamed replacement sit?

I have asked for Meph's permission to ask about his activity level in both this and his current game relative to his meta before asking this.  Please only refer to his current games with relation to frequency.  If you do not wish to answer, that is fine.
I have sent out PMs to all players my slot has talked to via whispering.

I would like to revise my wishlist

1) <snip>
2) <snip>
3) <snip>
4) hunh, Im not sure I have a fourth.

btw, somebody contacted me claiming <snip> so . . .

Whoever you pick, remember that its best not to choose the 'scummiest player' per se, but rather the player whose death would tell the town the most.

I sent that to myself instead of you. :|

I would like to revise my wishlist

1) <snip>
2) <snip>
3) <snip>
4) hunh, Im not sure I have a fourth.

btw, somebody contacted me claiming <snip>, so . . .

This is who you'd like me to kill?
Sorry, no. I'm going to go after 1 of 2 people, pre-agreed upon with someone else, and none of these 3-4 people are those 2.
Don't worry, tonight you are not one of my targets.

Fair enough.  May I ask whom?  I ask because we are starting to get into people I have no opinion of or think are also town.

OK, pisskop, let me get this straight. This is the second time you've asked me to kill your targets.
<spoiler removed>

I disagreed with them, because I had already set up a plan for tonight with someone else. This is your response:

Fair enough.  May I ask whom?  I ask because we are starting to get into people I have no opinion of or think are also town.

Here's who you don't want me killing: <super snip>

Here's who I'll be killing, as had in a conversation with someone else:

Well, I will be killing either <snip> or <snip>, depending on how the day goes, if I live through day 1.

Thank you for the advice and reasoning on why not to kill <snip> tonight.

neato.  I can approve.   But I don't get <snip>, personally.

I am frankly getting rather annoyed with you insistence on tunneling me, despite my attempts to be polite and ease your paranoia.  You are dragging this game down, and muddling the other content.

[Mephansteras]

The Mod has come down with a very nasty cold and has been unable to read the last...10 pages or so. I am extending the game by another day so that I will have a chance to get caught up once I'm well enough to do more than sleep.

[pisskop]

Stuff keeps happening in my inbox and I'm not sure I like it all. 

This is making me feel very lonely. Nobody wants to PM me. :[

Same here >_>

PFP arrgghhh this dis
connections

PFP so can't quote now, but Tiruin should have recieved the conversation, so she can, maybe. If not, then Jim.

I think this is interesting, considering I'd put money on Flabort messaging you more than just this one time.
  Nice to also know he messages Jim . . .


Anywho, there's 12 inches of snow on the way, so my schedule will be screwed up until Wednesday or later.

I'm overdue for voting him, and I can't guarantee I'll be online in any regular fashion.  I may just be on a phone, or not at all.
  TheDarkStar


  Get well mod.