I'm breaking this post up a bit . . .
CheetarAt this point, I'm honestly getting a little tired of seeing people try to justify their bandwagon on somebody who's been unable to post and up for replacement for days now in day one. Quit it. Pisskop has been actively trying to steer a claimed vigilante into killing the people he wants killed in private, and has also been absolutely terrible at justifying any of it. Do any of you honestly believe he's town?
Flabort: You don't have to kill those people. Those days are over. You don't have to sell your body to the night nightkill anybody except those who you believe are scummy, and even if you think those proposed to your by Mr. Private are scummy, pick someone else just so scum can't plan around your kill. Nobody should be dictating who you're killing except you.
The point is while I'm suggesting, somebody is directly influencing. Who?
[Pisskop not answering my questions]
Cheetar
Pisskop: You offered to post PMs of why you think Flabort is town. What does this have to do with me wanting to vote for you? (Also: Your strongly 'suspecting' that somebody is detective means nothing to us. Either somebody has claimed to you, or you're making it up. You have nothing to work off except what people have told you, and unless you want to say that I have no reason to believe there's a detective.)
Additionally: Why send different people different PMs?
Your response is one that suggests one of two things. I choose to believe you reacted in a relatively town way. As explained above, I sent out two waves of PMs, to people with which I enjoyed differing levels of communication.
Good job answering none of my questions. Jee whiz. Why did you offer to give us the PMs Flabort has sent you in confidence (and why now have you posted these)? Why do you believe there's a detective? Why did you send different people different PMs?
But I did answer them. You are not the only one who asked.
Deus
Pisskop, what was the reason for the differences in your PMs? How did you decide who got which one?
I sent them at different times to different people with whom I'd varying levels of trust/interaction with. The differences between the two are the two questions.
I sent the PMs out in waves, and new people that I hadn't talked to yet were in the second wave.
As for why I offered up Flabort's posts, I want to convince you he is also town. I was mentioning how we could secure his vig shot without lynching him, remember?
To be fair, there is no foolproof way to ensure he is 'town vig'.
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Letting somebody live because they're a high priority target for a nightkill (assuming they're telling the truth) is not optimal, because it leaves open the possibility for scum to leave them alive to draw our suspicion to them, and they can also argue that they were left alive purely so scum would have an easy lynch the following day. At the time, I saw Flabort as the scummiest player, and I wasn't going to let his weird silly claim get in the way of my wanting to lynch him.
Are you opposed to giving him the chance to verify his claim? If you were scum and you believed flabort's claim, what would you do?
Be the one keeping him alive so I can whisper in his ear on who to kill to prove his towniness.
That only works if he thinks you yourself are town.
-Cheetar, why are/were you willing to compromise with a TDS lynch?
Well duh, of course it only works if he thinks you're town. Was I suggesting anything else? TDS was my next scummiest pick for how suspiciously he jumped on the Flabort wagon.
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That's not a question of yours. But yes, I was asking you why you wanted a TDS lynch. I didn't remember your reasons for suspecting him, so I was being thorough.
specially now that the TDS wagon exploded, I think its important to get the reasons down today for review tomorrow.
ToasterPisskop: I don't get the point of asking via PM instead of publicly. [He asked me too.] To answer, IIRC he may have replaced in other games; I can't be bothered to look. I assume his request is sincere; since most complaints about him have been in regards to inactivity, I'd say it'd be a waste of a lynch; there's plenty of time to grill his replacement tomorrow.
I wanted to ask via PM to compare seperate answers. For instance, one answer stated they don't follow meta. Another gave examples of why it meant nothing. A third stated that they didn't know what to think about Deathsword's slot, but felt some kind of way about another person.
The idea of free-for-all whispering in mafia is a new concept to me, which I rather like thus far. I feel that the overall gain is positive for me. I have what I feel is a small town block set aside. And, as a bonus, Flabort's over-reactions have outed his handler's, which I'm going to demand he tell us about. It's likely Tiruin or Jim, but, you know . . .
No, If I wanted your opinion, and to compare it to half the game's players I would have asked 8 of you via pm. Which I did.
My PM didn't contain that specific question, though.
That's something Flabort skipped over. But shhhh. He's too busy trying to lynch the strongest advocate for keeping him alive to notice.
What does this say about Flabort?
That he likely responded to the posted PM of Cheetar instead of the one in his PM. Why is more open to debate . . .
-He was anxious to prove himself (town)
-He wanted me to look worse (nullscum)
-He was hoping to snowball Cheetar's vote (scum)
-He wanted to answer every question I asked (nulltown)
Given your clear suspicion of him I gather you don't think he's being an eager beaver, which I do think of him. The clear effort put into his poor, poor, very poor attempts to make me look bad in his
wall of links suggests a rather . . . 'naive' townie to me. I wouldn't completely eliminate the possibility of him being scum off of that one post, but in PMs he's been more or less cooperative, albeit quick to jump on me.
I have trouble believing he is scum.
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