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[Mr.Person]

Yeah, but you cuss more.

There's a difference between swearing and being condescending.

[Tack]

Alright, Alright. I wasn't being condescending, I was being hypocritically helpful?

Or just helpful, to which end Ulogy shoved me off and told me I was being hypocritical.
This ain't mafia.
Can we get back to srs bsns?

[Mr.Person]

Oh right. Mafia. The whole reason we're here. Almost forgot about that.

Too tired now, gonna have to post tomorrow with something worthwhile.

[webadict]

I literally have hundreds of posts quoted and ready to examine. Y'all're gonna hate me for the next post I make.

[webadict]

I literally have hundreds of posts quoted and ready to examine. Y'all're gonna hate me for the next post I make.

And by this I mean after classes and work today. I thought I could get this up before I left but I am mistaken.

[SirBayer]

Zai, not noticing that he is now tied for the chopping block thanks to my vote. Apparently he doesn't care enough to reply?

I noticed. I didn't think that bit was worthy of commenting on. Did you really expect me to say "o noez get ur vote off me!!!!! I CANT BE TIED"? If not, what exactly did you expect me to say? I replied to part of your vote-post. (But looking back, I see I failquoted you. You were the 4th quote in that post.)

Have you read the entire thread yet? If so, still think I'm scum?

I have caught up. More or less. I'm not... entirely unconvinced either, but towards the later pages you're either getting into your towngroove or working out how to be less irritable about people rightly accusing you of being scum. I'm not sure which it is. I don't have any leverage other than that, though, so I'll let you be until you do something else. Unvote Zai.

So who's my next target?

Spoiler: Vector (click to show/hide)

Does anybody ever listen to me when I point out that this is normal for ToonyMan? Vector, you have the advantage of time in the meta-department, but I've played a number of games with ToonyMan, and this is just what he does. I refuse, outright, to believe that you're unaware of that. In fact, that makes me rather suspicious.

No, it isn't "just what he does."  Or, at least, this isn't what I remember him doing.  The way he is right now comes off as flat-out uninvolved with the game, which I never noticed before.  I noticed him being nutty.  I noticed the vote-flopping.  I noticed a lot of things... but this comes off as a different behavior to me, which is why I am going to continue to vote him on it, no matter how many people try to make me stand down.

I've caught Toony as scum multiple times, when everyone else was saying "No, that's just Toony being Toony."  I may have mis-calibrated, but I'm not going to go "Oh, Toony is just being scumtacular as usual. *ignore*"




Toony, here's your reasoning:

He's posting a rapid fire of questions just like the last game.

Yes, that's really... good to see, man.  That really clears things up and makes everything nice and explainable.

And...

This game is being really stupid, damn.  I'm going to keep my vote on Zai.

I'm aggravated at this game and after scanning through Zai doesn't improve.

Second choices would be Mr.Person and Tack.

Mystery choice would be Josh.

This is why you're still voting.  In what world do you think this is acceptable, hm?

You're not bringing up any other points, you're just stalling Vector.

Stalling for what?  What other points do I need?  I want to lynch you, damn it!  All I need to do that is to convince some other people that you're scum--so I'm going to keep shouting my argument into the wind for as long as I have to.

I also went over the Vector/Webadict argument in a little more detail, and I realized something pretty simple: Webadict is right. As usual, I suppose.

How can you excuse just wanting to lynch someone? Okay, yeah, we're town. That's our kill. But you're insisting that you're not stalling but rather just immune from the need to accumulate sufficient evidence. That's stupid. That's not townie. That's not reasonable, Vector.

In addition, regarding the meta: This is exactly what he looked like in Vote Mafia. And as I screamed at Mr. Person many times that game (sorry about that, Mr. Person), he rolled up town. This is normal. This is what he is right now. Stop making excuses.

Webadict: I look forward to it.

Elegy, Tack, Mr. Person: Oi. Elegy, if you think Tack's scum, vote him and draw up evidence. Tack, if you're done trolling, try actually scumhunting. Mr. Person... carry on. You're fine.

[Vector]

How can you excuse just wanting to lynch someone? Okay, yeah, we're town. That's our kill. But you're insisting that you're not stalling but rather just immune from the need to accumulate sufficient evidence. That's stupid. That's not townie. That's not reasonable, Vector.

In addition, regarding the meta: This is exactly what he looked like in Vote Mafia. And as I screamed at Mr. Person many times that game (sorry about that, Mr. Person), he rolled up town. This is normal. This is what he is right now. Stop making excuses.

No, I'm not immune from the need to accumulate sufficient evidence.  I have evidence.  I have collected it.  So go take a look at the umpteen million posts I've made that were, in fact, filled with evidence.  I've argued with ToonyMan on these points at least twice already, and the trail is here.

Furthermore: Am I only allowed to attack in a Bayer-approved manner, nowadays?  You were scum in Vote Mafia, you ass.  Forgive me if I don't feel like following your directions when it comes to whom I get to attack and whom I don't.

[ToonyMan]

I ask the same of others, but Vector nooooooo.

Not too sure about Tack, looks like he's trying to look town guiding Elegy.  I wonder what Webadict has cooped up for us.

In the meantime, do you honestly think what you're doing right now Vector isn't hypocritical?

[SirBayer]

How can you excuse just wanting to lynch someone? Okay, yeah, we're town. That's our kill. But you're insisting that you're not stalling but rather just immune from the need to accumulate sufficient evidence. That's stupid. That's not townie. That's not reasonable, Vector.

In addition, regarding the meta: This is exactly what he looked like in Vote Mafia. And as I screamed at Mr. Person many times that game (sorry about that, Mr. Person), he rolled up town. This is normal. This is what he is right now. Stop making excuses.

No, I'm not immune from the need to accumulate sufficient evidence.  I have evidence.  I have collected it.  So go take a look at the umpteen million posts I've made that were, in fact, filled with evidence.  I've argued with ToonyMan on these points at least twice already, and the trail is here.

Futhermore: Am I only allowed to attack in a Bayer-approved manner, nowadays?

Excuse me for scumhunting. Do you object to me bringing up arguments against you? Do you feel the need to react to my vote? Are you nervous? Because you sound like you are, and as far as I can tell, only scum gets nervous under pressure.

And hey, as far as I can tell, your argument hinges on the idea that this behavior is unusual. Again, I've experienced ToonyMan more recently than you (i.e. in another parallel game), apparently, and he was that way there too. Your argument is either a. based on faulty meta or b. an excuse to have a vote on someone. I suspect the latter, obviously, or I wouldn't be voting you.

[webadict]

Almost back, guys. Had some work to do, but I'm only a couple of minutes from home.

[Vector]

In the meantime, do you honestly think what you're doing right now Vector isn't hypocritical?

I don't consider it hypocrisy when I know that I've done something wrong and am doing what I can to fix it.  Let's say I OMGUS once, then go "crap, I OMGUSed.  Better stop doing that."  If I then attack someone who has OMGUSed two or three times, that doesn't make me a hypocrite.  I'm not saying I'm shiny perfect and peachy-clean.  I'm saying that you're doing scummy things.

Excuse me for scumhunting. Do you object to me bringing up arguments against you? Do you feel the need to react to my vote? Are you nervous? Because you sound like you are, and as far as I can tell, only scum gets nervous under pressure.

And hey, as far as I can tell, your argument hinges on the idea that this behavior is unusual. Again, I've experienced ToonyMan more recently than you (i.e. in another parallel game), apparently, and he was that way there too. Your argument is either a. based on faulty meta or b. an excuse to have a vote on someone. I suspect the latter, obviously, or I wouldn't be voting you.

You're the fourth vote on me, and I'm on the table for the lynch.  I'm getting a little bit annoyed at having people jump down my throat.  Of course I'm reacting to your vote.  It's not like we're sitting in RVS or something.

My argument hinges on the idea that ToonyMan's behavior is scummy.  From what I know of his meta, it is still scummy.



Jokerman-EXE and Org, who do you think are scum?

[Jokerman-EXE]

Jokerman-EXE and Org, who do you think are scum?

I sort of feel like Tack and Mr.Person are scum, but that's just a gut feeling. For Tack, it's his general attitude this game that makes me feel like he's off. With Mr.Person, it's just a vibe I'm getting when he posts.

[Vector]

I sort of feel like Tack and Mr.Person are scum, but that's just a gut feeling. For Tack, it's his general attitude this game that makes me feel like he's off. With Mr.Person, it's just a vibe I'm getting when he posts.

I suggest you put your vote where your mouth is.

[Jokerman-EXE]

When does the day end? I'm not sure I want to place a vote based on just a feeling. I'd also like a Vote Count.

[Vector]

Day ends tomorrow.

Is there some reason why you shouldn't be voting to lynch someone?  Also, if you aren't sure, then why aren't you doing more to find out if you can get something more than "feelings?"