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[drkpaladin]

Apparantly even with rF+++ hellfire can still do 48 damage in one hit to you.  Best Troll Chaos Knight attempt in a long time.  Note to self, nothing resists hellfire.

Fiends are bad news. :-(
 Attempting Elf:5 with a level 17 Troll is asking for trouble, though perhaps that sweet rod of destruction made you a lttle overconfident. I like to at least have abjuration (or better yet silence) to deal with demonologists. Summoning-types can be a royal pain for melee-based characters, my level 27 minotaur gave up on the last level of elf solely because of the demonologists. He even had a rod with abjuration, but it was not enough.

Until you pointed it out I didn't realize I was already elf 5, I was planning on just delving for loot a little, I thought it showed up early and honestly thought that rFire worked against demon fire, even though I was withdrawing at the time, not charging.  I rarely used that sweet rod, really just for hydras, but it was a good gift. I honestly used my ability to breathe fire more.  I had to decide to delve deeper in the main dungeon without sInv.  Was I overconfident? probably, I lacked rN otherwise the demonologist wouldn't have taken 3/4ths of my health with two torments and the fiend wouldn't have taken me by surprise. 

Oh, I'll only be satisfied if I win with TrCK, but Demonspawn are fun enough, but the game gets a little boring when you aren't eating the equivalent of 3 horses per level.  I like to chant NOMNOMNOM when I play Troll.

[G-Flex]

rN doesn't really protect against Torment that much anyway. Even at rN+++, it still knocks off 35% of your health instead of 50%.


Elf:5 is extremely difficult if you don't have the right equipment: You want SInv (unless you have cloud spells or something), some way to get the hell out of Dodge if horrible demons start showing up (or blademasters start murdering you), and strong ranged attacks if possible.

[Niveras]

Just had a random idea for a new god. It is basically five minutes old, we'll see if it actually sounds good enough to work out further.

The basic gimmick is that the god takes pity on you. As your piety raises, he'll affect and improve the result of random rolls with increasing frequency and better results. Piety is generally raised by his major gimmick: wearing items with negative stats, but possibly each intervention will cost some piety. He has some overlap with Xom or the good dieties (who will respectively do similar things if he likes you or save you from death if piety is high), but it's not as chaotic or limited. For example, he might guide your melee attack and make it deal extra damage to your target after you've missed it completely for several turns. Not an outright kill, but maybe better than the average damage you'd have dealt yourself. He won't save you outright, so you still need to avoid e.g. stat death, spamming of impossible spells, bumping into things you have no business looking at let alone fighting. Might also improve rate of skill gains, which overlaps a bit with Ash (who directly improves skills in addition to experience gain), but then Ash seems so powerful maybe it could do with parting out some of his power to another god.

Eventually he'll decide you've learned enough/had enough training/no longer need a watchful eye and it is time for you to continue on your own. He'll leave you of his own accord, with no godwrath, leaving you free to pick another god. Maybe this could actually be done when you hit 'max' piety, with piety gains coming from his interventions (so basically you have a limited number of interventions before he won't help you anymore) and wearing bad gear reduces the piety gain (giving you more chances if you make it harder on yourself). My initial desire was also for him to provide godgifts when you/he part company, but I don't know how best to do that. Maybe a number of artifacts based on character level, the selection based on skills, and the quality based on the level of those skills. So you'd get a fair number of good, useful artifacts if you'd played for a while (10+ levels), but the kicker is you have to abandon him before he thinks he's helped you enough and leaves on his own.

[blackmagechill]

Hey, what's this trunks thing everybody keeps talking about/ using? It sounds pretty cool.

[Robsoie]

development builds, updated very often (nearly daily) :
http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/

[PCpaste]

Does anyone know what exactly i'm supposed to do when Xom says something like "Go fourth and redecorate my child!" or "This place needs a little more atmosphere..."?

All it does is make me make a trail of magical condensation, what does he want me to do with this?...

EDIT: Also, how do you learn to cast spells if you didn't start the game with any?

[Robsoie]

When you don't have the spellcasting skill, read magic scrolls, it will train the skill (even if you don't have it yet) and after a while you'll get Spellcasting 1 added to your skill list, enabling you to cast spell.

But i suggest to not read scrolls if you don't have points available in your XP pool, as it will not train Spellcasting in such case.

[PCpaste]

Man, that character was going so well...

But then as I was fighting an army of orcs, armed with multiple preists calling upon Bogh to own me, Xom thought it would be HILARIOUS if there was also an army of demons there.

Thanks, Xom, you certanly know what's best for me.

[G-Flex]

Does anyone know what exactly i'm supposed to do when Xom says something like "Go fourth and redecorate my child!" or "This place needs a little more atmosphere..."?

All it does is make me make a trail of magical condensation, what does he want me to do with this?...

It does nothing, it's just cosmetic. I guess the clouds might prevent other clouds from forming on that square, maybe, but that's of limited use.

[Robsoie]

Playing with an Octopode (it's really a fun addition to Crawl) and i'm doing very good so far as an Ice Elementalist : i got to the point i can use Throw Icicle hunger free, found a ring of magic power and found a staff of magic power, giving then my character a nice amount of magic points to be able to cast Throw Icicle many times when needed.

Discovered the hard way that Condensation shield , that i never used before, does not work if you have already one (should have read the spoiler about it as the spell description does not mention it), i hoped the spell would renforce my buckler or create an additional shield on one of the tentacles.
Oh well, at least it's an occasion to use an amnesia scroll.

Decided to follow Yredelemnul so i could get some rise undead ability without having to train necromancy and have some meathshield if the situation is too dangerous, and got to the point i recieve some undead servant from time to time.

Was exploring Lair and recieved a flaming corpse as a servant there, raising a few yaks (a few throw icicle when they're at a distance then multiple freeze when they're in contact destroy them) as zombies i was confident on my survival there.

Then i saw Ruppert, the "i can cast Berzerk again and again without slowing or hungering and i can confuse you everytime, and you can't , la la la la la" very annoying unique.

But i decided to test a few throw icicles on him, after ordering my troops to assault him.
As usual, Ruppert decided to cast confusion on me, so i lost a few turns, fortunately my troops were in contact now, so Ruppert couldn't get to me quickly.

As i was ready to activate my teleportation ring ability to escape what i then thought would be certain death once Ruppert would have easily killed everything between him and me, i was surprised, the Flaming Corpse proved its worth by burning Ruppert badly, getting him under what looked multiple sticky flames.
After a few turns, Ruppert was dead and the Flaming Corpse was dancing all over his burned body.

Revenge for all the time Ruppert has annoyed me (even if it gives only half the experience when killed by a summon) !

[G-Flex]

XP gain for collateral kills actually changed recently. When a summon kills something, you get 50% XP if you did no damage yourself, but of the remaining 50%, you get a percentage of XP based on the damage done. For instance, if you knocked off half of Rupert's health and the rest was your summons, you get 75% of his XP.

[Mr.Person]

Getting hit by a Flaming Corpse means getting Sticky Flame'd.

[Robsoie]

Rupert understood that too late

[Virex]

Man, that character was going so well...

But then as I was fighting an army of orcs, armed with multiple preists calling upon Bogh to own me, Xom thought it would be HILARIOUS if there was also an army of demons there.

Thanks, Xom, you certanly know what's best for me.

But was it hilarious?

[Frumple]

8427 Jim the Frost Mage (level 11, -7/67 HPs)
             Began as a Mummy Ice Elementalist on June 17, 2011.
             Was a Believer of Sif Muna.
             Killed by divine providence
             ... invoked by a Balrug
             ... created by miscasting Summon Ice Beast
              (11 damage)
             ... on Level 11 of the Dungeon.
             The game lasted 01:10:56 (18430 turns).

Hahaha, screw you crawl, screw you.

Some freaky number coincidiences, though. Clvl 11, dungeon level 11, 11 damage on the killing blow (the fireball beforehand hit for considerably more), two 1s for first non-zeros on the time... I guess 11 for the year. Odd.

This guy got fairly screwed, for all it did pretty well. Didn't find a sif altar until th'9th dungeon level, didn't have channel energy until either late 10th or early 11th dlvl. It took off for a while there, me murdering everything with ice and flail, but then, yanno', freaking balrug in mah base burnin' me mummies. Actually used a blink scroll the turn after it appeared (and blew me near to hell with a fireball), but it smote me instead of nailing the ice beast that was in between it and me. Lucky spell choice, I guess. Freaking thing.

Spoiler: Full dump (click to show/hide)

 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.9-a1-539-g4c0d231 character file.

8427 Jim the Frost Mage (level 11, -7/67 HPs)
             Began as a Mummy Ice Elementalist on June 17, 2011.
             Was a Believer of Sif Muna.
             Killed by divine providence
             ... invoked by a Balrug
             ... created by miscasting Summon Ice Beast
              (11 damage)
             ... on Level 11 of the Dungeon.
             The game lasted 01:10:56 (18430 turns).

Jim the Frost Mage (Mummy Ice Elementalist)        Turns: 18430, Time: 01:10:56

HP  -7/67        AC  8     Str 14      Exp: 11/11965 (232), need: 9664
MP   4/26        EV 13     Int 17      God: Sif Muna [**....]
Gold 52          SH  0     Dex 12      Spells:  6 memorised,  9 levels left

Res.Fire  : + . .   See Invis. : .    r - +2,+4 flail of Cuyt {crush, rF+}
Res.Cold  : + + .   Warding    : . .  k - +0 leather armour {rC+}
Life Prot.: + + +   Conserve   : .    (no shield)
Res.Acid. : . . .   Res.Corr.  : .    (no helmet)
Res.Poison: +       Clarity    : .    z - +0 cloak
Res.Elec. : .       Spirit.Shd : .    s - +0 pair of gauntlets
Sust.Abil.: . .     Stasis     : .    F - +2 pair of boots
Res.Mut.  : +       Ctrl.Telep.: .    H - amulet of resist mutation
Res.Rott. : +       Levitation : .    p - +3 ring of strength
Saprovore : . . .   Ctrl.Flight: .    j - ring of protection from fire

@: very slightly glowing, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly
stealthy
A: no food or potions, fire vulnerability, cold resistance 1, life protection 3,
poison resistance, torment resistance, unbreathing
a: Channel Energy, Forget Spell, Renounce Religion


You were on level 11 of the Dungeon.
You worshipped Sif Muna.
Sif Muna was most pleased with you.
You were not hungry.

You visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and saw 12 of its levels.

You collected 597 gold pieces.
You spent 565 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 i - a +0 blowgun
 r - the +2,+4 flail of Cuyt (weapon) {crush, rF+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   
   It protects you from fire.
Missiles
 h - 42 poisoned +0 needles
 u - 16 +3 arrows of flame
Armour
 k - a +0 leather armour of cold resistance (worn)
 s - a +0 pair of gauntlets (worn)
 z - a +0 cloak (worn)
 F - a +2 pair of boots (worn)
Magical devices
 d - a wand of fireball (0)
 e - a wand of flame (0)
 o - a wand of enslavement (5)
 D - a wand of magic darts (13)
 K - a wand of fireball (4)
 L - a wand of lightning (10) {unknown}
Scrolls
 a - a scroll of enchant weapon I {unknown}
 c - 9 scrolls of remove curse
 f - a scroll of enchant armour {unknown}
 g - a scroll of blinking
 l - a scroll of fog
 m - a scroll of immolation {unknown}
 n - 2 scrolls of identify
 w - 5 scrolls of detect curse
 x - 2 scrolls of noise {unknown}
 y - 4 scrolls of random uselessness {unknown}
 A - 4 scrolls of curse weapon {unknown}
 B - 4 scrolls of teleportation {unknown}
 C - 2 scrolls of curse armour {unknown}
 G - 2 scrolls of curse jewellery {unknown}
 I - a scroll of fear {unknown}
 M - a scroll of summoning {unknown}
Jewellery
 j - a ring of protection from fire (left hand)
 p - a +3 ring of strength (right hand)
 q - a +1 ring of dexterity
 t - an uncursed amulet of guardian spirit {unknown}
 v - an uncursed ring of magical power {unknown}
 H - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
 J - an uncursed ring of wizardry {unknown}
Books
 b - a book of Frost   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Freeze                            Ice                          1
   *Throw Frost                       Conjuration/Ice              2
   *Ozocubu's Armour                  Charms/Ice                   3
   *Throw Icicle                      Conjuration/Ice              4
   *Summon Ice Beast                  Ice/Summoning                5
   Freezing Cloud                     Conjuration/Ice/Air          6
 E - a book of Death   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Corpse Rot                        Necromancy                   2
   Sublimation of Blood               Necromancy                   2
   Agony                              Necromancy                   5
   Excruciating Wounds                Charms/Necromancy            5
   Bolt of Draining                   Conjuration/Necromancy       6


 You had 232 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 2 Fighting
 - Level 2 Maces & Flails
 + Level 2 Armour
 + Level 5 Dodging
 - Level 2 Stealth
 + Level 8 Spellcasting
 + Level 5 Conjurations
 + Level 3 Charms
 + Level 3 Summonings
 + Level 4 Necromancy
 - Level 10 Ice Magic
 - Level 5 Invocations


You had 9 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Success   Level  Hunger
a - Freeze                Ice            #####        Excellent   1    N/A
b - Throw Frost           Ice/Conj       #####..      Excellent   2    N/A
c - Ozocubu's Armour      Ice/Chrm       #####.....   Excellent   3    N/A
d - Throw Icicle          Ice/Conj       #####....    Great       4    N/A
e - Corpse Rot            Necr           N/A          Excellent   2    N/A
f - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       #####.....   Good        5    N/A


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (11/27)            Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (0/4) D:11
  Lair: D:8-13        Hive: D:11-16     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin

Shops:
D:4: *  D:6: (*  D:8: [  D:11: +(*(


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You do not eat or drink.
Your flesh is vulnerable to fire.
Your flesh is cold resistant.
You are immune to negative energy.
Your system is resistant to poisons.
You are immune to unholy pain and torment.
You do not need to breathe.


Message History

You channel some magical energy. Your ice beast hits something.
Your ice beast freezes something! You feel a bit more experienced.
Your ice beast looks stronger.
Casting: Summon Ice Beast
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
You miscast the spell. You sense a hostile presence.
Your Summonings skill increases to level 3!
Use which ability? (? or * to list)
You channel some magical energy.
The Balrug gestures at you.
The fireball explodes! You resist.
One of your 2 scrolls labeled MOLUQO RUTIOTIU {tried} catches fire!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Blink to where?
Press: ? - help, Dir - move target cursor
As you read the scroll of blinking, it crumbles to dust.
The Balrug gestures at you.
Something smites you!
You die...

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You could see a Balrug and friendly 2 ice beasts.

Vanquished Creatures
  Pikel (D:
  A slime creature (D:11)
  A cyclops (D:11)
  Psyche (D:9)
  A troll (D:11)
  A steam dragon (D:10)
  A yak (D:11)
  Eustachio (D:4)
  A hippogriff (D:
  A manticore (D:
  3 ice beasts
  A slave (D:
  3 orc warriors
  A sky beast (D:
  8 ogres
  4 centaurs
  A giant goldfish zombie (D:
  17 wargs (D:11)
  A water moccasin (D:7)
  3 giant frogs
  A water moccasin skeleton (D:4)
  2 eyes of draining
  7 wights
  A brain worm zombie (D:10)
  3 goliath beetles
  A killer bee zombie (D:
  A basilisk skeleton (D:
  10 imps
  A big kobold skeleton (D:7)
  A shadow (D:10)
  A hound zombie (D:11)
  6 orc priests
  10 hounds
  A hound skeleton (D:10)
  4 iguanas
  An orc wizard (D:6)
  3 scorpions
  4 worker ants
  A worker ant zombie (D:6)
  2 jellies
  4 snakes
  11 gnolls
  3 giant mites
  7 worms
  A bat skeleton (D:6)
  3 bat zombies
  A giant eyeball (D:10)
  8 giant geckos
  A giant mite zombie (D:5)
  22 orcs
  23 bats
  7 giant cockroaches
  16 hobgoblins
  6 quokkas
  7 giant newts
  13 goblins
  3 jackals (D:6)
  16 kobolds
  2 orc skeletons (D:
  2 orc zombies
  27 rats
  A rat zombie (D:
  13 toadstools
310 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A shop mimic (D:11)
  A hippogriff (D:11)
  3 yaks (D:11)
  4 wargs (D:11)
  A big kobold zombie (D:11)
  An orc priest (D:7)
  A hound (D:11)
  A jelly (D:11)
  2 snakes (D:11)
  2 orcs (D:7)
  A quokka (D:11)
  A goblin (D:11)
  A kobold (D:11)
  A rat (D:7)
21 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A slave (D:
  3 ice beasts (D:11)
  A jelly (D:11)
  A worm (D:
  An orc (D:11)
  A hobgoblin (D:5)
  A giant spore (D:11)
  A hobgoblin zombie (D:
  A jackal (D:4)
  A rat (D:3)
  35 toadstools
47 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 378 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Jim, the Mummy Ice Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 3/3
   194 | D:1      | Reached skill level 3 in Ice Magic
   954 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 16/16 MP: 2/4
  1871 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 21/21 MP: 3/5
  1941 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Ice Magic
  2436 | D:2      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  3109 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 27/27 MP: 4/7
  3280 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
  3582 | D:3      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
  3586 | D:3      | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
  3647 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 32/32 MP: 4/9
  3647 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Ice Magic
  4032 | D:3      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  4410 | D:3      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  4426 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
  5384 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Ice Magic
  5507 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 24/38 MP: 9/12
  6519 | D:4      | Found Pew Top's Assorted Antiques.
  6613 | D:4      | Bought a brightly glowing flail for 178 gold pieces
  6614 | D:4      | Identified the +2,+4 flail of Cuyt (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Dungeon)
  6875 | D:4      | Noticed Eustachio
  6897 | D:4      | Reached skill level 8 in Ice Magic
  6902 | D:4      | Defeated Eustachio
  6902 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 2/43 MP: 0/16
  6902 | D:4      | HP: 1/43 [bat[Eustachio] (1)]
  7308 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  8083 | D:5      | Reached skill level 9 in Ice Magic
  8248 | D:5      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  9551 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails
  9589 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 35/49 MP: 13/18
 10129 | D:6      | Found Ebrucabb's Assorted Antiques.
 10155 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle
 10388 | D:6      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
 10783 | D:6      | Found Loottez's Weapon Boutique.
 11070 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 11370 | D:7      | Reached skill level 10 in Ice Magic
 11587 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
 11598 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
 11715 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
 12505 | D:8      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 48/54 MP: 17/20
 12561 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 12906 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
 12998 | D:8      | Found Dalafuharo's Armour Shop.
 13015 | D:8      | Learned a level 2 spell: Corpse Rot
 13019 | D:8      | Bought a +2 pair of boots for 213 gold pieces
 13081 | D:8      | Noticed Pikel
 13108 | D:8      | Defeated Pikel
 13217 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy
 13976 | D:8      | Your ally freed slave died
 14008 | D:8      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 14792 | D:9      | Noticed Psyche
 14807 | D:9      | Defeated Psyche
 14807 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 55/61 MP: 5/23
 14911 | D:9      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 14925 | D:9      | Became a worshipper of Sif Muna the Loreminder
 15328 | D:9      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
 15470 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 15664 | D:10     | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 16029 | D:10     | Acquired Sif Muna's first power
 16674 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
 16712 | D:11     | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
 17314 | D:11     | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
 17341 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 17382 | D:11     | Learned a level 5 spell: Summon Ice Beast
 17428 | D:11     | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 17609 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
 17611 | D:11     | Acquired Sif Muna's second power
 17847 | D:11     | Found Sossuq's Weapon Shoppe.
 17885 | D:11     | Found Kat Udda's Assorted Antiques.
 17893 | D:11     | Bought a scroll labeled SHREUQ RYJYUMYOKK for 29 gold pieces
 17893 | D:11     | Bought a scroll of identify for 58 gold pieces
 17893 | D:11     | Bought a scroll labeled PSEDDA REYTEY for 29 gold pieces
 17893 | D:11     | Bought a scroll labeled MOLUQO RUTIOTIU {tried} for 29 gold pieces
 17893 | D:11     | Bought a scroll labeled HOUNEU TOFIUGU for 29 gold pieces
 17898 | D:11     | Found Bowade's Book Emporium.
 17953 | D:11     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 67/67 MP: 13/26
 18066 | D:11     | Found Waachaeg's Weapon Boutique.
 18112 | D:11     | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 18430 | D:11     | Killed from afar by a Balrug

There needs to be a sif zealot class, just for mummies.