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[Kashyyk]

I was just thinking of radar. And as our revision we can fit turbochargers and fuel injectors (I believe we stole both) to our yellowjacket. One of the main struggles it is having is a lack of power compared to their bomber and their new fighter.

Edit: on the other hand actual armor is something I've wanted for a while now...

[evilcherry]

Actually, no, as GM buys into "the bomber always get through" doctrine.


"Moskurgan Tiger" Infantry Battle Armor

We have been studying the how Moskurgan Tigers, and their lesser brethren Moskurgan Cats hunt. Most importantly, Hunters reported that unless they actually move, its practically impossible to spot one in the Jungles or the Deserts. Clearly they have employed visual methods to fool any unsuspecting prey. Some Tigers also put twigs and leaves atop their back, so its even harder to spot in the Jungle. Also, study reveal that their skin is pretty thick for an animal of its size.

Given that we are the sons and daughters of the Tiger, we should emulate their ways. We should now all wear appropriate clothing for the biome, so our soldiers cannot be seen before unleashing our wrath. We should also learn to put extra objects atop us and on our back for Camouflage. In addition, it should be a kind of thick skin like ballistic steel and ceramic plates. But if soldiers complain (or they wanted to be lighter) they can remove the extra protection.

[Kashyyk]

I'd prefer ceramics for armour, as it had no obvious resource requirement and it will get us closer to getting composite armour for our vehicles. This'll also fix our blasted camo

[Playergamer]

It's not bomber always gets throughh doctrine, the service ceiling of the bomber is much higher then the ceiling of our Yellowjacket. Hopefully, turbochargers could fix that and we'll win the air.

[Taricus]

That being said, personal armour at this stage is HIGHLY impractical, since we actually need to move around a lot. And ghillie suits aren't too practical for warm-weather applications.

[Devastator]

Good turn.  In respect for some much improved results, I'll be much quieter this turn.

I think a single-shot breech-loading grenade launcher like a M-79 would be better than plain grenades.  It's a very simple mechanical design, and the round, although finicky, is likely to be not terribly more complicated than good flak rounds.  It might also get us handheld grenades along with the launcher grenades, and the range on these grenades is pretty good, making it more useful in the mountains, as it's undeniably man-portable.  The rev could then be to fix camo.

Spoiler: Some thoughts for the future (click to show/hide)

I don't think it would be productive to try and re-win the air war until we can  get a really next-gen aircraft, which will probably take spoilerons, superchargers, contact-explosive AA rounds, and an armored aircraft.  Probably also an autocannon, as one will be needed if they make armored aircraft, and it would help take down their bombers too.  I think all of these can be experimented with on useful ground vehicles that will allow immediate benefits to their production, except for spoilerons, of course.

The first vehicle I would design, and I'd recommend it for next turn (not this one), would be a flak truck, so to speak, containing a 1" autocannon on a full pivot mount with flash shield driven on a chassis similar to our existing trucks, and propelled by a new turbodiesel engine intended to be used on our trucks in future years.  That would fill in the nice gap between AAMGs and our heavy flak cannon, give us mobile anti-air in case we break out back into the desert, and could be used to roll on contact and proximity explosive rounds, both of which would be useful in all kinds of situations.  1" prox explosive AA rounds are quite capable of wrecking aircraft, and such an autocannon would fit nicely in the next plane, whenever that should be.  Also, if we make the cheaper truck engine to pull it, it would lower the truck cost to 'inexpensive', which means we should have enough trucks available (all with radios!) to make proper mobile infantry units.  That's a significant further bonus.

[Taricus]

Hmm... Why not an armoured car with the AA gun, used as an anti-infantry/light vehicle cannon? That way we could develop the cannon separately whilst also replacing something that needs to be replaced.

[Kashyyk]

Taricus makes a good point, especially as our current flak guns can be towed by tigers anyway.

[Elfeater]

We could use the kind of vehicle the Germans used in early WW2, with the 88 on the back of an armored truck to resist small arms fire, and move the gun close to the front to be used against the AA and tanks.

[Kashyyk]

That sounds like something we could do as a revision action. I approve.

[Baffler]

That sounds like something we could do as a revision action. I approve.

Yeah, that sounds pretty good.

Someone mentioned a boat for our design, and I'm honestly liking the idea. How about we shift the paradigm a little bit? Ideally this will be disrupting their shipping enough to cost them resources, and provide some extra fire support for our ground forces.

Husayn Class Assault Craft

A lightly armored naval craft utilizing a pair of steam-powered cruising turbines, named for the famous armored car commander of the early war. It is equipped with a pair of 5-inch guns, one near the bow and one near the stern for naval engagements and shore fire support, and a Stallion on a raised stand to offer some protection from aircraft. The 5-inch guns are coordinated at long range using a targeting calculator, and include brushed electric motors to assist in aiming.

[Kashyyk]

I'd like it if we could have some transport capabilities with that. Being able to drop vehicles and fully equipped infantry behind enemy lines would be very useful.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

If we want to go for navy I prefer nimble wooden boats to save damned ore and oil and get something usable in jungles... But I think it is too late for navy.


My offer for this turn.

Widowmaker
6-barrel electric powered rotating 2/3 inch calibre autocannon created for devastating firepower and relatively low weight. Comes with light universal wheeled carriage that can be towed by other vehicles for strategical mobility or use own light engine for tactical mobility.

[evilcherry]

Really the battle armor is there for the writing. I'm happy if no one jumps onto my back.

It's not bomber always gets throughh doctrine, the service ceiling of the bomber is much higher then the ceiling of our Yellowjacket. Hopefully, turbochargers could fix that and we'll win the air.

Not really. For a few years, only Arstotzka have a proper bomber. While we got the yellowjacket GM still insists that they are dropping more bombs on us than our Model 2.
((To me, we should be ruling the skies for a few years, with our Model 3 used as impromptu attack aircraft (the Stallion seems to be our M1919/M60 Browning). Arstotzkan bombers will still go through the gaps to drop ordance. But GM deffo don't think like this.))

So we can never properly win the air unless we have bombers, but bombers are hell expensive.

Hmm... Why not an armoured car with the AA gun, used as an anti-infantry/light vehicle cannon? That way we could develop the cannon separately whilst also replacing something that needs to be replaced.

Could be a very good idea as an IFV. Functionally its identical to the Russian BMP.

We could use the kind of vehicle the Germans used in early WW2, with the 88 on the back of an armored truck to resist small arms fire, and move the gun close to the front to be used against the AA and tanks.

I thought our 3.6in is already towable, but hell we even have more guns than trucks available.

That sounds like something we could do as a revision action. I approve.

Yeah, that sounds pretty good.

Someone mentioned a boat for our design, and I'm honestly liking the idea. How about we shift the paradigm a little bit? Ideally this will be disrupting their shipping enough to cost them resources, and provide some extra fire support for our ground forces.

Husayn Class Assault Craft

A lightly armored naval craft utilizing a pair of steam-powered cruising turbines, named for the famous armored car commander of the early war. It is equipped with a pair of 5-inch guns, one near the bow and one near the stern for naval engagements and shore fire support, and a Stallion on a raised stand to offer some protection from aircraft. The 5-inch guns are coordinated at long range using a targeting calculator, and include brushed electric motors to assist in aiming.

Too little too late and probably national effort.

If we want to go for navy I prefer nimble wooden boats to save damned ore and oil and get something usable in jungles... But I think it is too late for navy.


My offer for this turn.

Widowmaker
6-barrel electric powered rotating 2/3 inch calibre autocannon created for devastating firepower and relatively low weight. Comes with light universal wheeled carriage that can be towed by other vehicles for strategical mobility or use own light engine for tactical mobility.

3-in gatling doesn't sound light at all. Its the caliber of a light tank gun!


If GM rectified his mistake (our 3.6in should outrange and outdamage every gun on ground) we can just make the Jagdbreaker.

[Playergamer]

I think he means 2/3, not 2 or 3 inches.