PFPugh. stuff IRL. Exams coming. Lots of stuff >_>
PPE: LS.
That's one thing I can agree on. (sycophant?)
@Toaster asking me about my upvote/downvote thing: I did tell you I'd state the truth in anything I'd do.
Given Tiruin's incredibly terrible responses just now, I'm ... man, oh man. Tiruin and LS both being spies is a crazy possibility, but not an impossibility.
I'm using reverse psychology. Blatant ones, and yet people perceive that as scumminess. Joy, isn't it?
Also. Please. Listen. There. was. One. Spy. I am in no way associated with LS.
Query: Your idea that I'm scum relies mostly on your gut, aye?
Explain how it went to a strong scum read? Illogical? Lying perhaps? Why?
Tiruin (has voted the same way as me on every vote. I know I'm town, so maybe this means he is too? This stands in sharp contrast to Toaster who has never voted my way.)
Dude. This is
not how you judge people's alignment :/
This can go both ways - merely a coincidence, really. Its lacking in reasoning, backing or logic. Why are you picking me though? Nothing else but...that? Reasons, please.
Tiruin: At #146 you say you wouldn't send Nerjin, CF or NQT on a team, and yet this is exactly the team you voted for when it was suggested by Ford. What changed your mind?
Toaster
Tiruin: What's your read on Nerjin? Who are your preliminary choices to go? Is there anyone you would absolutely not send?
Re-reading back (and let me say that is a lot of stuff to mull over O_o),
Tentative:
Nerjin
Captain Ford
notquitethere
...Now I'd like to poke at some interesting posts here:
Nerjin
Question though: We have DS, Toast and Me. Why all the downvotes? Because Nerjin picked them or...?
That's the largest reason I voted No, yeah. I'm not going to allow a group that a suspected spy arranged, even if they did RNG in one try.
Coherent thought!!! Although I have to say that under this assumption you won't allow anyone's group through but your own.
So...you seem to have read Toony's post as him only accepting his user-picked group, or a group he is in?
@Toony: So just because Nerjin picked the team mentioned, why are you against it? Have you a deep enough read of him to validate 'scum' in your eyes?
Now an explanation on the picks. We have three of the newest, or perhaps the people who are...particularly unknown except for what they post - no meta, or much visible experience on this board. NQT has shown to be quite the logician, Ford with a mindset based partly on correlations, and Nerjin by his...how do I say...shifting wording? I mean, in his first posts, he goes aggressive at poking posts in an overt manner (this is wifom [post], no explanation given to support such), and then goes on along the probability train, ending up with a random team roll.
This may seem like a meta tell, but if a sabotage goes through, I believe it will be easier to see who is whom.
Also, a small hypothesis: 5 missions where one of them, the fourth, requires 2/3 to be scum to succeed and 1/3 to succeed (assuming they don't lay low). This is a non-NK game. We have 10 players. Assuming a 4/6 ratio (GG states generalities >_<), 4 - spy, 6 - town at best, 3/7 or even 5/5 at worst. The former is judged against the scumteam, and the latter against the town, but putting all pertinent probabilities in anyway.
Someone said about something on Nerjin right?
> Feels like town to me. He stated in his early posts that he was town-aligned, a bit too early before sufficient pressure was even dropped on him. Also, aggressive in his posting.
@ Toony again:
You stated Throwing it to the rebels is not right. They just need three wins, if they can get the first (especially with multiple spies in the first mission to cause confusion) it's a more clear victory for them.
I don't see anything of the sort...anywhere. If I've missed it, quote//link please.
I think you misread. It was the opposite of what you said.
Tiruin (has voted the same way as me on every vote. I know I'm town, so maybe this means he is too? This stands in sharp contrast to Toaster who has never voted my way.)
Nerjin (seemed earnest with the random team thing. Has the brains, hearts and muscle to win this.)
Toonyman (he's hated me this whole game but I don't have any compelling reason why he's scum despite looking hard for it.)
NQT (because I know I'm innocent, and I'd be an idiot not to put me on the team at this stage.)
This is a really bad team! Switch yourself and Tiruin out for people who are not spies please.
Not-so-incidentally, this is also the full list of people who downvoted the last failed mission and everyone that hasn't gone yet because I think it's highly plausible that scum double-teamed at least one previous mission.
I fully agree! In fact I think they triple teamed two previous missions. The last two missions. The ones you voted with ZU and Tiruin for and against respectively.
Blatent spy persuasion is blatant...And yet nobody tries to press harder.
Why do you think those people are spies
Leafsnail?
I think we've both already decided we're not gonna be friends a while ago.
:/
Nerjin, calm down please...Look, people believed you're a spy because of your outburst at the start of the game. Somehow, they associated flailing around as a scumtell without giving you an outlet to reply. Thing is, you (mostly) haven't pressed that point but acted on emotion. While I can relate with that, this present an ambiguous case on both sides.
Still...that's a bit too harsh to consider snapping ties with Ford :/
Tiruin (has voted the same way as me on every vote. I know I'm town, so maybe this means he is too? This stands in sharp contrast to Toaster who has never voted my way.)
Nerjin (seemed earnest with the random team thing. Has the brains, hearts and muscle to win this.)
Toonyman (he's hated me this whole game but I don't have any compelling reason why he's scum despite looking hard for it.)
NQT
You've my vote on this
NQT.However, to replace any sort of doubt for the townies out there,
shift me out and replace me for anyone who isn't Leafsnail or Dariush/ZU. (Like Toaster.) Dar, generally because of his antics...(I mean, nobody would normally just
poke and anger a player for fun. This doesn't do well if you're really town. Unless he's a jerk so...)
Why Toaster? Of all the people in the first mission - LS has replied illogically regarding my alignment, Toaster has been lenient and diplomatic. Regardless whether you believe me as spy/town, Toaster is the and conclusive rebel-evident bet possible.
Though, I'm agreeing with
Toony -> Ford. Both have been reasonable considering the level of doubt given and taken, however judging by Ford's antics, he's leaning more than Toony for me.
I have no idea what's going on at this point.
NQT: Pleeeease replace Toony and NQT and with Ford and Dariush
What does ducks have to do with anything?
Also I always thought Tiruin was male and just put female otherwise. I dunno lol.
Two things: Gender = IRRELEVANT! Stop discussing it.
...Thanks for making a discussion about it. Y'know,
without my reply. I'd really love to know how this factors in Mafia though.
Tiruin off-topic:
(Just noticed that your profile says you're female. I'm sorry for getting your gender wrong in previous posts! The assumption was based on your avatar.)
Its normal for people to assume the general 'he' online. I believe its usually due to how the internet originated and all that...80's thinking...I believe Vector made a post regarding the general 'he' somewhere, just forgot exactly where.
Still, yeah. My avatar is from one SeriousConcentrate, who did the art based on a character I made for a really loved RTD. So sentimental value. Very much sentimental value given that that was my first RTD character I've ever made, including how he offered to make it. <3
Also, its ok. I don't mind ^^
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