I get the sense that the game is slowing down because of me. For that I apologize.
Well done markressler. Until such a time as more evidence presents itself I stand by my case that Mark is a scum. And now for flavor.
This is several days late, but not so fast.
I dislike your congratulations here, since it reveals that you think you're incredibly certain about markressler being scum. Believing somebody is scum to the point of certainty is usually a problem, but especially so in Beginner's Mafias since nobody knows what they're doing and hence they're probably wrong.
You also can't really accuse any player of performing the night kill, since there's no way it could ever lead to any specific player. If you're going to call a player scum, it should only be in reference to evidence that's happened during the day or role results. That's for the most part the only legitimate evidence that can be used in role-light setup like this.
1. I don’t see how I pander like a schoolchild but I think I know what you mean. Jim is a teacher here so I find it appropriate to give him a decent amount of respect as he is taking time from his busy schedule to inform us on how to play the game. That being said the second he tries anything scummy I’m voting for him.
On the one hand, I like it when people are deferential to me.
On the other hand, I don't like it when people are deferential to me.
All I care is that you respect my lessons. The man who gives them out, less so.
Jim: You're being non-commital, and the only player you've seriously pressed (me) is the only one that has engaged you at all. Why? And what would you have done if you were Sox, unsure of either player's guilt but with the power to break a tie?
Noncommittal is putting it nicely.
Before Day 1 ended, I was planning on going through the thread and finding things to question of Kamin and Nerjin since my gut was telling me that they're suspicious, as well as cast a vote on somebody. (I still plan on doing this but it'll have to wait for sometime tomorrow.) However, the day ended 16 hours earlier than I expected, since the mod lives in GMT+8 and I live in GMT-8. By the time I woke up the day was over.
Breaking a tie is sometimes easy and sometimes hard. If it's a choice between a player you're suspicious of who is not your top suspect and another who isn't your suspect, then the choice is obviously easy. From where I stood near the end of Day 1, I had no strong suspicion of either kingfisher111111112 or Wrex. The choice was not ideal at all, and I don't think I would've made a choice one way or the other. I make a big deal about any lynch being better than a no lynch, but then I'd be willing to coward out if I didn't have a reason to think either of the two players were scum. I would have voted who I thought was scum, tie be damned.
Hypocrite, much?
Hypocrisy isn't a scumtell, as brought up by Shakerag.
[Flavor post! Doesn't impact the game.]
Anything you post has an impact on the game.
Anything you say is potential material for someone to use against you whether you meant it to or not.
Now that Wrex is gone, we don't even have a cop to point your scummy ass out of the crowd.
But who needs a cop when there's players like you!
Decrying the loss of town players does nothing. What's your primary goal? To find scum. How does mourning the loss of dearly departed members of the town help you do that?
I suspect you did this because you think it makes you look more town. Well, it doesn't. Nightkills are a basic fact of mafia. They happen, it sucks. No use worrying about it. Anybody who does looks weird and they look like they're trying to look town in the hollowest way possible, which is scummy.
Here you go again. I didn't bandwagon Mark. I've explained that to you. And I'm rightly tired of you digging for some other answer that doesn't exist, Vodot. Now that Wrex is gone, we don't even have a cop to point your scummy ass out of the crowd. I've been pretty adamant that I think you're scum, just like last time--your probing won't change that. Oh, and here's my "evidence" again (we've been over this, just as I explained to you how "evidence" works in this game.)
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=115600.msg3588182#msg3588182
That's your evidence?
That's the emptiest string of accusation devoid of evidence I've seen in a long time.
You can't shout out empty accusations and then claim that a player complaining about empty accusations is evidence that they're scum. You'll find that pretty much everyone has a problem with empty accusations.
I love your witch hunt, Vodot, but I'm afraid the one pointing the finger is actually the one to blame. You don't seem all that upset about Shakerag; why is that? Are you upset with your NK decision because Shake was only a vanilla townie? I imagine Jim is the next on your NK/lynch list, huh? God knows those ICs are dangerous!
Yet more empty accusations.
You're throwing accusations at vodot that you don't have a chance in hell of ever proving, much less ever having even a shred of basis, so why are you throwing them out there?
There's literally nothing about the nightkill that could ever point to any specific player; that's the whole point of it. Any arguments based on it are automatically flawed for that reason.
Don't worry. I have no issues with breaking a tie.
That's pretty scummy, friend. I think you may have just shown your true colors. Did you help Vodot make the decision for NK-ing Shake? I wonder how you two came to consider him?
It's not that scummy.
Vodot: The funny thing about your "evidence" is that it would only be satisfied by a copy of the Role PM. Very cute, and hardly absolving on your part. You're pulling the "Sox Defense": Try your hardest to make a claim about yourself seem insubstantial by selectively reading it--then weakly try to turn it around on the one asking the questions.
Useless hyperbole.
Get a case and try again.
Extend. I still haven't had a chance to look at this game.
[Lurk moar, newb.]
Shawt up.