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The present build (Continuance Effect based)

BMM42's build (page 38)

A different build (Submit in thread)

[Blade Master Model 42]

Spoiler: Proposed Overhauled Bard (click to show/hide)

The Bard is the ultimate wild card, capable of nearly anything. Of course, a wild card played alone is worth nearly nothing! You draw power from your allies, making their abilities your own, and showing them strength they never knew they had. Just as often, you subtly manipulate events in the background, maybe without realizing it yourself. No matter what you do, tread carefully: Nothing is certain around a bard, and while one might allow a group to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat, the opposite can also be true...

The Bard Interacts with their Aspect by allowing or inviting its destruction, or inviting or allowing destruction through it.

The Bard is most comfortable in the Leader Role.

Class Alignment: Passive
Attribute: Pulchritude
Skill Bonus: Galaxy Hearts- +4 to Chumming or Trolling.
Traits: Mirror Soul- Gain a +2 bonus to your Will.
Jokerkind - You may choose a second kind abstratus to start with. Additional kind abstrati require the Strife Portfolio upgrade as normal.
Brutal Affront: Honk Pile (Stupid, someone rename that) Deal 1d10 damage and the target is deafened until the end of their next turn
Grave Blunder: Take 1d10 damage and be deafened until the end of your next turn.

Aggrievements

Pave the Way
Standard action – At-will          Melee- OR Ranged-Kind
Target: One creature
Attack: Pul + your level + Weapon Precision vs. AC
Hit: 1[W]+ level +Plc modifier damage.
Special: Choose one ally. The target has Vulnerability 5 against the chosen ally until the end of their next turn.

Mass Confusion
Standard Action - At-will         Close Burst 5
Target: Each enemy in Burst
Attack: Pul+your level vs. Will
Hit: The target is dazed until the end of their next turn

Once More, With Feeling
Standard Action - Encounter     Melee or Ranged
Target: One Enemy
Attack: Pul + your level + Weapon Precision vs. AC
Hit: 1[W]+Pul+level damage, and one ally may use an encounter power they have already used in this battle.

(Another Aggrievement, I got nothing right this minute)

Boon
Imperfect Copy
Choose an at-will or rechargeable aggrievement from another class. You may use it as an Encounter Power.

Fraymotif
Mime's Revenge
Immediate Reaction-Encounter     Special
Trigger: An ally uses his or her Fraymotif against an enemy within your attack range.
Effect: You may use the triggering fraymotif against the same target as the triggering attack.
Special: If the triggering attack misses and you hit, deal maximum damage.

As always, tell me what you like or don't like about the ideas presented above. I think it's a better idea than introducing a continuance mechanic. Also, better names would be... Better, I guess?


Also, a proposed weapon alchemy trait:

3 points
Innocuous Double
This weapon can be changed between two different kind abstratus you have as a minor action. All applicable upgrades function for both kind abstrati chosen.

[freeformschooler]

Alternate title: Homestuck RPG: THE HEIST.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Maybe later. I'm still attached to the recently resurrected panty raid joke.

I kind of want a comic where Steve and Mikhael sneak into one of the girl's houses, and drag Alex along for some reason, and when they are inevitably caught, Alex get's caught holding the bag, as it were.

The idea amuses me.

[SirAaronIII]

I think a continuance mechanic might be too complex a gimmick for just one class. I like this new thing you have here more. Favorite part is the drawing powers from others, that feels fitting and interesting.

One thing.. wait, I forgot what I was going to say. I'll post it tomorrow if I can remember and if it's still relevant.

[Johnfalcon99977]

I'm now determined to have Mikhael loot the homes of all the female players when no one is around. Afterwards I'm pretty sure he will unlock an achievement, a custom title, and a cosmetic item of sorts.

[Blade Master Model 42]

I'm now determined to have Mikhael loot the homes of all the female players when no one is around. Afterwards I'm pretty sure he will unlock an achievement, a custom title, and a cosmetic item of sorts.

Spoiler: I can see it now... (click to show/hide)

Achievement Unlocked: Snoopin' Dawg
Successfully loot the houses of all girls on the team.
Item awarded: Frilly pink panties (head slot item)

[freeformschooler]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[Org]

Sorry to be a bother, and this might be a little bit harsh, but I can not believe someone could make a worse Bard than SC. Most of the passive stuff is okay, although I'm not too sure about Jokerkind, but its probably okay. Honk Pile is, iirc, somewhat meh. Deafened doesnt really do much, so its sort of worse than Sassacrusher.

Pave the Way seems to be a worse version of the Mage's Wweakening Broadside. Slightly better at early levels, but will be outshined by mid to high levels.

Mass Confusion. No. Just no. No one will pass on an at-will Daze. Especially one that affects everyone in a Burst 5.

Once More, with Feeling is good and just gets better with levels. Once you start getting those powerful Fraymotifs, your friend gets two shots with one.

Imperfect Copy is actually something I like, although isn't that great of a Boon. Could probably be reworded for clarity, or at least to allow for a little more variability.

Mime's Revenge is also very good, in the way of being somewhat more powerful than anyone else's Fraymotif.

Also the God Tier that was made by the guy who made 1.1 is considered pretty terrible and probaly shouldnt be used as a base, just a heads up. Alchemy is ridiculously powerful so losing your ability to draw your alchemies as easily and having less is pretty crippling.

[freeformschooler]

Are you saying this Bard is worse than the original? Ambiguous phrasing.

Once More With Feeling and Mime's Revenge both kind of remind me of the Final Fantasy V Mime class. However, it's probably worth making it so that the encounter power or fraymotif used cannot be your own (unless that's what Ally implies in D&D anyway). That would fit more with the "passive class" (assisting) theme.

I would also agree on the god tier, but I honestly have no idea what would be better. Maybe not have as much rad combat power and instead have a large boost to Title Power? Not sure.

Still thinking. Pave the Way doesn't seem to deal any damage but it's also hugely useful, so maybe Recharge 6? Wait, no, it does do damage. I could see it working better without that.

[Org]

Are you saying this Bard is worse than the original? Ambiguous phrasing.

Once More With Feeling and Mime's Revenge both kind of remind me of the Final Fantasy V Mime class. However, it's probably worth making it so that the encounter power or fraymotif used cannot be your own (unless that's what Ally implies in D&D anyway). That would fit more with the "passive class" (assisting) theme.

I would also agree on the god tier, but I honestly have no idea what would be better. Maybe not have as much rad combat power and instead have a large boost to Title Power? Not sure.

Still thinking. Pave the Way doesn't seem to deal any damage but it's also hugely useful, so maybe Recharge 6? Wait, no, it does do damage. I could see it working better without that.

Worse in the way that it is probably better. And SC's classes were better than the original classes. (The Aggrievement changelog is horseshit, probably shouldn't use it to be honest)

Ally means not you.

[Blade Master Model 42]

So Org, would you suggest changing Once More, With Feeling to be changed so it only recharges an encounter aggrievement, rather than just any encounter power?

We can drop Mass Confusion, you're right, it's probably too abusable.

I still really like the idea of Mime's Revenge, and it isn't terribly overpowered since the Bard may not use their native primary stats with the resulting attack, and someone else needs to use a fraymotif in order for them to use theirs.

Did you take a look at my revised God-Tier? I think it now keeps fair balance with the other two Epic Boons.

[freeformschooler]

I still feel like one of the boons should have a boost to Title Power. Maybe Class Mastery?

[Blade Master Model 42]

I still feel like one of the boons should have a boost to Title Power. Maybe Class Mastery?

The God-Tier Boon boosts it indirectly.

[Org]

So Org, would you suggest changing Once More, With Feeling to be changed so it only recharges an encounter aggrievement, rather than just any encounter power?

We can drop Mass Confusion, you're right, it's probably too abusable.

I still really like the idea of Mime's Revenge, and it isn't terribly overpowered since the Bard may not use their native primary stats with the resulting attack, and someone else needs to use a fraymotif in order for them to use theirs.

Did you take a look at my revised God-Tier? I think it now keeps fair balance with the other two Epic Boons.

1) Nope, bad idea. What if no one else takes their Aggrievement Encounter?

2) Good.

3) You would be right; however, a Bard will PROBABLY not choose to use their Fraymotif on a bad match for them. However, you have found Mime's Revenge's second fatal flaw: if no one has a similar stat they use, for example, being the only Mangrit class in your session, you get a somewhat shitty Fraymotif.

4) Yes. Sorry to say, but it seems to have the same problem in the Alchemy Department. Anyway, we always took Epic Boons in the wrong way. Personally, I think a GM should sort of tailor make Epic Boons for their players, and they should be taken from more of a Epic Path or whatever from 4e. Just my two cents.

[freeformschooler]

Personally, I think a GM should sort of tailor make Epic Boons for their players, and they should be taken from more of a Epic Path or whatever from 4e. Just my two cents.

I am ALWAYS an advocate of this approach whenever possible. Game built around players > players built around game.