Book:
I don't claim certainties about people's alignments, silly! It is a certain thing that curtailing discussion hurts town and helps scum, just as it is certain this is D5. You're the one claiming certainties you couldn't have unless your PM listed who was scum to begin with.
Okay then, using what I know (which I've already stated multiple times), construct a plausible alternative to you being scum. If you can do that I'll reconsider my certainty of your alignment.
And about claiming certainties
about people's alignments, your first comment to Native was:
NativeForeigner: You are Tiruin's scumbuddy.
So you're full of shit on that point.
You're also the one proposing actions (not extending) that are clearly anti-town.
You mean anti-
you.
I'll show you an example, which incidentally also proves how your latching onto the death miller thing is interesting: you know there have been death millers in BYORs. Your scumbuddy OrangeBottle was one in BYOR8, and his fake-flipping was instrumental to your scum victory.
Given that the ability was revealed on death, OB was not a death miller - he was a WIFOM-generation tool (scum who got killed or townie who got hit by his replace-kill?). The uncertainty of his flipped alignment was known. In addition, how was OB's (actually Native's) flip instrumental to our victory then? I seem to remember that his ability being revealed made Zrk2's comment about flipping cult on death (and his actual flip) make a whole lot more sense, and near-eliminated the previous suspicion of a cult.
Second example from BYOR6.3 just for completeness, since you asked for two:
That case has the scum flip anything
but town, but I see your point.
Aren't you? I certainly haven't see you challenge it. So, please tell us what you think is the current faction distribution.
Any of the following:
Two scum (you and Tiruin), brother to a townie
Two scum (you and Tiruin), brother to a townie, Shake or Hapah are third-party
Two scum (you and Tiruin), third party (Jack), brother to third party
Three scum (Jack, you, Tiruin), brother to scum.
Three scum (Jack, you, Tiruin), brother to scum, Shake or Hapah are third party.
Two scum (Jack and Tiruin), brother to scum, you as cross-aligned third party (This is the case if Jack's lying about the danger scroll, meaning he's concealing your action, and why would coaligned scum either kill or redirect a kill to a buddy?) - I would say this scenario is rather unlikely, as Darvi would have had to have been interested in killing Jack N2 but you'd have to be interested in saving Jack's ass D4/D5 (while simultaneously trying to lynch him and despite being responsible for the kill attempt on him N2).
Note that in all of these scenarios, you are either scum or a cross-aligned third party who would be willing to lie to town to prevent scum from dying. Are you the latter, and if so, why did you fakeclaim this action, what benefit do you gain from Jack's being alive, and why do you think Darvi tried to kill him?
Potato, potato. You withdrew it so people wouldn't vote you. This is scummy as hell.
A vote on me is a vote not on you. Except your own of course.
Hapah:
Urist: Did you know that you've voted Book not once, not twice, but no less than five times today? You said you wanted him dead, but damn.
I've been on the receiving end of such a tactic before, and I know from experience that it increases the pressure attached to such a vote. I was originally going to vote him
every post, but ended up forgetting to do so.
More later when I'm less tired.