As I said, that was merely one possible scenario, not saying that's exactly what must have happened. But yes, it's entirely possible someone (alive or dead) has fakeclaimed actions, which was my original point in reply to your textbook WIFOM question; thank you for supporting it, but let's not go deeper into the wine barrel, yes? Or are you saying you are sure no one has fakeclaimed actions?
Well, Hapah's protect was confirmed, Shakerag's track is
very likely true considering Tiruin's flip and the kill attempt, Native's was confirmed posthumously, and Tiruin's actual action is fairly obvious. That leaves you, me, and Jack as possible fakeclaimers. If Jack tried to kill, but got redirected to himself, and I protected him from that kill, who is left to fakeclaim but you? Did you fakeclaim your N2 protect? If so, why? If not, this scenario seems rather less possible. So I was apparently wrong about somebody else fakeclaiming - it's you or nobody (not counting Tiruin).
If Jack and I are a team, and we're not the same team as Tiruin, and one-man mafias don't exist, how can you not be Tiruin's buddy?
Jack could be Tiruin's buddy and teamed with you in a different way ("mafia-ally" or other weird 3rd party).
For case "mafia-ally," the last Toaster-modded game to have a mafia-ally did not reveal the existence of the ally to the mafia, nor the identity of the mafia to the ally. In order for that scenario to be true, Jack and I would have to have identified each other as mafia and ally by D2 in order for our interactions to be suspicious as far back as N2. And considering that I targeted Glyph N1 and Jack was randomized... How likely do you think that would be? And what other third parties would be plausible in this case? And since I know of at least one answer to that,
Mod: Can two brothers be attached to the same player? And (back to
Book) if you can't think of one, then how would that scenario (Jack+Urist-Tiruin) hold without you being scum?
Or if you are claiming exclusive teams with Jack, I guess Shakerag could be Tiruin's, but I doubt it. Are you claiming you're teams with Jack?
I am not claiming to be a team with Jack, and I'll request that you not put words in my mouth again.
Again, I'm not claiming certainties, merely stating that Jack seems the most scummy, his actions, answers, and reactions are scummy or suspect, and are all compatible with his being Tiruin's buddy. Your interactions with him (and your continued attempts to defend him) strike me as very suspicious, though, but I'm unclear on how to interpret them yet.
I am not defending Jack so much as I am TRYING TO GET YOU DEAD. Honestly, a scroll of solar flare would make this so much less aggravating. Besides, if there are three scum, Jack's the third. I don't know if you're bussing or mislynching, but I know you're doing one of them.
But questions for you: I notice you didn't respond to my point about your asking for an inventory claim being either ill-advised or scummy. Please tell me whether you think it would be better or worse for the town if all inventory was out in the open and why. Also, what do you think about Jack's reaction to my FoS back on my very first post on this thread?
I think it would be good for town, as knowing what options people had each night would help provide context for their actions, as well as help fight off fakeclaims along the lines of "I got item x last night and used it" should the game continue to tomorrow.
Jack's response feels genuine to me, considering that the reveal of a brother's existence is rather pointless to respond to in the first place.
PPE: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
VINDICATION
DIE
BOOK YOU FUCKER
You were betting on scum hitting you? Why would they go for you over one of the confirmed-not-Tiruin-buddies? And why would you fakeclaim an item with a target instead of one without?