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Re: Holy Crap Minecarts (Devlog Quote)
« Reply #1200 on: May 04, 2012, 01:00:23 pm »

Hmmm... Possible fps improvement, tho? At least, the stock screen lags when I hit 2k stone, I'm sure there's probably a connection.
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« Reply #1201 on: May 04, 2012, 01:18:30 pm »

You can also sell useful stuff you can be proud of: weapons, bars, clothes....
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Re: Holy Crap Minecarts (Devlog Quote)
« Reply #1202 on: May 04, 2012, 02:18:40 pm »

"Hello, mister Elf, would you like to see this Spring's fashions?" Urist said as he minced across the depot.   ;D

No way am I selling anything made of metal.  :P  That stuff is too hard to get. 
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Re: Holy Crap Minecarts (Devlog Quote)
« Reply #1203 on: May 04, 2012, 08:02:52 pm »

You can also sell useful stuff you can be proud of: weapons, bars, clothes....

Once the economy gets more integrated, you won't be selling weapons to the humans since those weapons might be later used against dwarves. Sell tourist junk to humans/elves and weapons/armor to dwarves.

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« Reply #1204 on: May 05, 2012, 10:35:29 am »

I just had a peculiar idea. If supersonic travel were to be permitted, then would it be possible to accelerate to such extreme speeds that the pressure in the air around the minecart would bend the light so much that you would get a rainbow?

Somewhat serious question, and would it be scientifically possible?
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« Reply #1205 on: May 05, 2012, 11:07:29 am »

Can you guys throw me some ideas how to make train stations? A world encompassing metro isn't too hard, if you use the Just Embark utility.
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« Reply #1206 on: May 05, 2012, 12:33:15 pm »

would bend the light so much that you would get a rainbow?

Somewhat serious question, and would it be scientifically possible?
No, it is a pure technobable.
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Re: Holy Crap Minecarts (Devlog Quote)
« Reply #1207 on: May 05, 2012, 01:44:12 pm »

Extreme pressure differences might refract the light (can't get wikipedia to give me a straight answer), but it wouldn't disperse it into a rainbow.
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Re: Holy Crap Minecarts (Devlog Quote)
« Reply #1208 on: May 05, 2012, 01:46:18 pm »

Light refracts to different degrees depending on its frequency (colour). I was basing my thoughts on that the differences in air pressure might refract it enough to create a (miniature) rainbow.

Edit: There is way to much science in my head for someone of my age. I need to get another hobby...
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« Reply #1209 on: May 05, 2012, 01:48:24 pm »

It will cause a heat distortion effect, but no rainbows sadly.
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« Reply #1210 on: May 05, 2012, 01:56:04 pm »

Under certain conditions, light will refract noticeably differently at different wavelengths, and this is called dispersion.  Heat refracts all light more or less the same, and I'm not quite sure about pressure, but it would probably be similar.
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« Reply #1211 on: May 05, 2012, 02:04:58 pm »

If you want to stick sonic rainbooms into this here game, you'll just have to mod it.
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« Reply #1212 on: May 05, 2012, 03:52:33 pm »

I just had a peculiar idea. If supersonic travel were to be permitted, then would it be possible to accelerate to such extreme speeds that the pressure in the air around the minecart would bend the light so much that you would get a rainbow?

Somewhat serious question, and would it be scientifically possible?
3 comments:
1) I feel you're tapping into special relativity there. The starbow phenomenon. That's only applicable to space ships flying at relativistic speeds. With air friction, it will never happen.

2) I suppose under a fantasy situation of ignoring how to get the object to such a speed, how to cope with the temperature associated with it and how to cope with the sonic boom... you possibly could get a very, very small and thin layer of ultra-pressurised air to slightly split the wavelengths of white light into a rainbow (which you probably won't actually be able to see).

3) While you're considering the refraction of light at different wavelengths, you may want to read up on Rayleigh Scattering (the correct answer for why the sky is blue, not because light refracts differently for different wavelengths).

tl;dr: 25% boulder drop rate makes for a very easy balance fix of "4 blocks per 1 boulder".

Quote from: devlog 5/5/2012
In addition, you'll also get multiple blocks per stone now.
And so our megaproject worries were put to rest.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2012, 03:54:17 pm by Psieye »
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« Reply #1213 on: May 05, 2012, 04:32:18 pm »

Why are rock crafts any worse than prepared meals?  At least it's Dwarfy to make toy boats from rock.   :P

The main issue is that it's a little silly because the traders don't take supply and demand into account much. A masterwork toy boat or three could probably get a good price. But by the end of the third year every human child has twenty rock boats and they still will pay out their ass for them. In Dwarf Fortress, all of humanity is made up of obsessive hoarders that will pay any price to increase their collection of useless shit.
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« Reply #1214 on: May 05, 2012, 06:29:55 pm »

In Dwarf Fortress, all of humanity is made up of obsessive hoarders that will pay any price to increase their collection of useless shit.

Sounds just like real life!
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