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Yes I want my dwarves to need to poo all the tons of stuff (s)he eats..once in a while

10 (6.1%)

Yes I want my dwarves to need to have sex without calving like a bunny

17 (10.3%)

Yes I want my dwarves to need to poo AND have impregnation-less sex every now and then.. not necessarily at the same time

41 (24.8%)

Yes I want my dwarves to need to poo AND have impregnation-less sex every now and then.. EVEN at the same time (perversion++)

17 (10.3%)

No I'm ok without 'em EVER pooing AND having sex only ONCE per child

80 (48.5%)

Total Members Voted: 165

Voting closed: February 15, 2012, 06:08:04 pm

[Babylon]

Kohaku did a really great job of addressing feces and waste management in a thread a while back.  I expect it is one of the ones Footkerchief linked to.

[DrPoo]

I don't see what is disgusting and unhygienic in my description.

Its the part where you're handling human feces. You may have missed it.

DF is a computer game, not a LARP.

You enjoy stating obvious facts that have nothing at all to do with the conversation, don't you? Obviously I meant it would be disgusting and unhygenic for the dwarves, unless you honestly thought I expected you to act out everything which happens in DF? We're talking about creatures who are offended at the slightest smell of rotting plump helmet or roach carcass, and get an infection from a small cut simply because they don't quite understand hygiene. I doubt they would safely handle any kind of bodily waste without consequence.

if your really that squeaky, mod the raws to make them shit nothing and make the dwarf replicate asexually.

[forsaken1111]

I don't see what is disgusting and unhygienic in my description.

Its the part where you're handling human feces. You may have missed it.

DF is a computer game, not a LARP.

You enjoy stating obvious facts that have nothing at all to do with the conversation, don't you? Obviously I meant it would be disgusting and unhygenic for the dwarves, unless you honestly thought I expected you to act out everything which happens in DF? We're talking about creatures who are offended at the slightest smell of rotting plump helmet or roach carcass, and get an infection from a small cut simply because they don't quite understand hygiene. I doubt they would safely handle any kind of bodily waste without consequence.

if your really that squeaky, mod the raws to make them shit nothing and make the dwarf replicate asexually.

You mean like they do already? I already said I don't care whether or not this is implemented. If it is, I'll deal with it just like any other feature of the game. I still think it's a stupid and unnecessary idea to implement it the way you seem to want.

Abstracting it to 'filth' and having hygiene consequences and plumbing would be enough.

[DrPoo]

I don't see what is disgusting and unhygienic in my description.

Its the part where you're handling human feces. You may have missed it.

DF is a computer game, not a LARP.

You enjoy stating obvious facts that have nothing at all to do with the conversation, don't you? Obviously I meant it would be disgusting and unhygenic for the dwarves, unless you honestly thought I expected you to act out everything which happens in DF? We're talking about creatures who are offended at the slightest smell of rotting plump helmet or roach carcass, and get an infection from a small cut simply because they don't quite understand hygiene. I doubt they would safely handle any kind of bodily waste without consequence.

if your really that squeaky, mod the raws to make them shit nothing and make the dwarf replicate asexually.

You mean like they do already? I already said I don't care whether or not this is implemented. If it is, I'll deal with it just like any other feature of the game. I still think it's a stupid and unnecessary idea to implement it the way you seem to want.

Abstracting it to 'filth' and having hygiene consequences and plumbing would be enough.

Why are you so mad and angry and agressive and attacking and negative and i have never heard of commas and and and

[Loud Whispers]

Calm down guys, it's certainly not the best suggestion, take it to PM's if you want to be at each other.

Also, have a comma: ,

[thobal]

I don't see what is disgusting and unhygienic in my description.

Its the part where you're handling human feces. You may have missed it.

DF is a computer game, not a LARP.

You enjoy stating obvious facts that have nothing at all to do with the conversation, don't you? Obviously I meant it would be disgusting and unhygenic for the dwarves, unless you honestly thought I expected you to act out everything which happens in DF? We're talking about creatures who are offended at the slightest smell of rotting plump helmet or roach carcass, and get an infection from a small cut simply because they don't quite understand hygiene. I doubt they would safely handle any kind of bodily waste without consequence.

Welcome to life prior to the year 1400 AD.

[G-Flex]

Why are you so mad and angry and agressive and attacking and negative and i have never heard of commas and and and

People are treating you the way they are treating you because of the way you are acting. To quote a very wise man from history: You're talking a lot, but you're not saying anything.

[forsaken1111]

You mean like they do already? I already said I don't care whether or not this is implemented. If it is, I'll deal with it just like any other feature of the game. I still think it's a stupid and unnecessary idea to implement it the way you seem to want.

Abstracting it to 'filth' and having hygiene consequences and plumbing would be enough.

Why are you so mad and angry and agressive and attacking and negative and i have never heard of commas and and and

I'm not sure what in my post you took as 'mad and angry and agressive and negative'. I used commas where appropriate, you're really not in a position to lecture me on being civil and using proper grammar. I didn't attack you or insult you in any way, just expressed my opinion on the idea.

[aepurniet]

i like what goblin camp did with pooing and weeing. goblins just leave behind filth in heavily traveled areas.  this could be just random garbage, or the OP's beloved poo. its not specific enough to be offensive, and does add some gameplay elements. tiles with a high level of filth slow down units, and it can be cleaned and disposed of by bucket brigades. in goblin camp its dumped into the spawning pool, but DF could use it to make compost.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Or better yet...no. It's too disgusting, seeing as SOME people don't even like to hear the word 'poo' in DF.

[DrPoo]

You mean like they do already? I already said I don't care whether or not this is implemented. If it is, I'll deal with it just like any other feature of the game. I still think it's a stupid and unnecessary idea to implement it the way you seem to want.

Abstracting it to 'filth' and having hygiene consequences and plumbing would be enough.

Why are you so mad and angry and agressive and attacking and negative and i have never heard of commas and and and

I'm not sure what in my post you took as 'mad and angry and agressive and negative'. I used commas where appropriate, you're really not in a position to lecture me on being civil and using proper grammar. I didn't attack you or insult you in any way, just expressed my opinion on the idea.

I was trying to soften up the disucssion with a bit of self irony, failed a bit i guess
I just think instead of talking about each others person, we talk about poo, or we dont talk about poo at all.
I guess some people have a more natural disposition to excrement than other people, and that is fine, its stinky, its brown, its disgusting when it leaves those huge brown stripes inside the toilet bowl, its the favored ammunition of the lowly monkey and all that. I understand it.

But DF is a simulator
I havent seen any real gameplay aside from Adventure mode, sure you can build a giant fortress and defend it, but you dont HAVE to, theres no real gameover.

[G-Flex]

I havent seen any real gameplay aside from Adventure mode, sure you can build a giant fortress and defend it, but you dont HAVE to, theres no real gameover.

Yes there is. When your dwarves die.

[Yoink]

Okay, whilst I find DrPoo's obsession with his namesake rather disturbing, and I would never want sex implemented in game, (well, not described at all; I mean, a lot of our players are rather young, imagine the problems that could cause... D: '>Build menu >Brothel') the inclusion of defecation and urination would pose rather an interesting challenge, as many have explained before.

I imagine it would end up rather like my fortresses and water: There is a well, but due to poor fort planning it's a decent trek from the fort's entrance, forcing any dwarf wishing to get a drink or bathe to walk the rather dangerous trail down the moutainside. Similarly, when trying to keep the problems of stinky sewage away from your lovely fort, it might be tempting to save time on building a sewer system and just designate a 'latrine' area a good distance away from your fort... But then, what happens when Urist McCheesemaker is busting to take a dump sorry, defecate as the whole place is in lockdown, under goblin attack? And what happens when a new recruit, plucked from the workforce and armed with only a -fungiwood training spear- is sent out to deal with a squad of lashers? Is that *dwarven butt biscuits* I smell, Kogan?!
But really, the possibilities are endless. It would be rather interesting having to incorporate sewage pipes and septic tanks into your fort's design, or perhaps simply drop-shafts reaching down to the magma far below. It could make potty-training a true edge-of-seat experience for little Urist!

On a more serious note, I think some of you are being rather overly-sensitive on the poo issue... Sure, it is rather gross, but I reckon dwarven dumplings would be rather less horrifying than certain things we have in game at the moment, like a soldier vomiting and retching violently on the ground, splattering his last meal down the front of his armour as he's beaten to death by goblins... If you think about it, that's the worse mental image.
This (Pooing and sewage, not dwarven orgies) would make a good addition to the game, in my opinion, although if others don't agree, there's always the RAWs. But as always, it's Toady's game, and I'm already so excited for the upcoming release that the lack of Dorfy Diahorrea won't really bother me!

...Yeah, it always did seem weird how we'll have sewers when nobody actually uses them, save as a hideout/lair.

[Babylon]

The violence in this game is incredibly, well, graphic isn't the right word, but detailed.  I have to question the morals of someone who has no problem with that but does with dwarven sex.

[Yoink]

Ineed, it really goes to show how strange our society is these days... A movie can include people being gunned down in droves, decapitated and split open by battleaxes and only garner an M or MA rating, but one graphic sex scene? Oh noes!