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[Tarran]

I wished up this "Joppa Recoiler" you have told me of. My last power cell later, it doesn't seem to do anything. (I assume it's supposed to recoil me to Joppa?)

Yeah. How charged was your cell? I'm pretty sure the recoiler takes a lot of power (from a full chem sell to a low chem cell). You might want to wish up a full cell, too, if you need it.

....I died....
*smashes keyboard wildly*

I accidentally attacked one of those hibernating creatures

Yeaaaaaahh, those guys can kick the crap out of you. You'll want to be fairly high leveled or have ranged weapons/mutations and force wall/bubble.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Ah, Slumberlings. I remember going to Red Rock and freaking the hell out when I went down the first staircase, and lo and behold, there sat an Impossible monstrosity one square away. It does make me wonder if their discription is just fluff, or if they really do wake up one day a year?

Anyway, I got the Joppa Recoiler to work, thanks be to Tarran.

....I really shouldn't keep this thing, given how I obtained it. But I think that I will.

[Tarran]

....I really shouldn't keep this thing, given how I obtained it. But I think that I will.

Ah, cheating temptation is setting in I see. Well, you can say you paid for it by buying crap from a merchant (about 60 drams for the recoiler I think?) worth that of the recoiler and dumping it on the ground.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

....I really shouldn't keep this thing, given how I obtained it. But I think that I will.

Ah, cheating temptation is setting in I see. Well, you can say you paid for it by buying crap from a merchant (about 60 drams for the recoiler I think?) worth that of the recoiler and dumping it on the ground.

Guess. Guess what goddamed quest I was returning to Joppa when I got stuck in that cave. I guess the whole cheating thing is no longer an issue, now that I have an honest Joppa Recoiler.

EDIT: And now I am appaerently expected to fend off killer robots with a jury-rigged scrambler so I can go talk to/kill off (I'm not really sure) a bunch of Mutant Albino Quilled Cave Bears. This game just hates the people who play it, doesn't it?

[Tarran]

Unormal, bug: The Warden has a "waterskin 0 drams of fresh water" worth 11.90 drams for sale on his trade screen.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

Is that a bug? I don't understand ... should it just say empty waterskin? Did you buy it and see if you could pour anything out, etc. or if it changes when you add liquids to it?

[Tarran]

Is that a bug? I don't understand ... should it just say empty waterskin?

Yeah, empty waterskins are just called empty waterskins.

Did you buy it and see if you could pour anything out, etc. or if it changes when you add liquids to it?

No, not yet. Trying now.

Also, your sig is severely outdated man. Might want to change that.

Edit: Can't pour anything out, goes straight to salt when filled up. Basically, it's a empty waterskin, just with a screwed up name.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I managed to kill a Slumberling at level 10, but just barely. The friendly security bots in the Grit Gate saw fit to awaken the sleeping monstrosity in an attempt to "help" me. Nearly all of my healing items, the totality of the level's droid population, several lead slugs, and 525 XP later I just barely managed to take the thing down. Not doing that again anytime soon if I can help it.

Spoiler: I should have used Rebuke Robot while I still had the chance. (click to show/hide)

=== Game summary for Rion ===
Game ended Wednesday, March 02, 2011 at 4:59:10 PM
Killed by drillbot.
Scored 16448 points
Survived for 18164 turns.
Visited 44 zones.
Found 1 lairs.
Most advanced artifact in posession: Joppa recoiler <> [chem cell
(Used) <>]

[Tarran]

Wow, witchwood bark is EXTREMELY effective at healing. Saved me many, many times. I highly recommend anyone with harvestry gather some, and anyone without harvestry get it and gather some, because they can save you from the brink of death easily.

Edit:

Spoiler: I really should've been more careful with Disintegration around enemies that spread acid when they die. Dammit. (click to show/hide)

=== Game summary for Tarran ===
Game ended Wednesday, March 02, 2011 at 7:25:43 PM
from acid!
Scored 26011 points
Survived for 20926 turns.
Visited 77 zones.
Most advanced artifact in posession: Joppa recoiler <> [no cell]
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[beorn080]

If you really want to survive, take Force Bubble and Force Wall. Yes, both of them. Force bubble shoves enemies away from you, and Wall stops them from following you. Around level 15, you can keep force wall up permanently, and at 22 you can keep Bubble up permanently. At least in theory. I haven't managed to get someone that high legitimately, but it sounds like a solid plan.

[Aqizzar]

So... I've had my first experience trying this game.  After futzing around with a couple throwaway characters, I thought I'd found a good (i.e. cheap) combination in being a Gunslinger Mutant with the Spinneret power.  I'd lure enemies towards me, trap in a web, and blast them to pieces at close range.

I tried this plan with a Salamander, and it worked fine.  The main problem was that, even with a base Agility of 24, it took over a dozen shots from two tiles away to kill the thing.  And after all that expended shot, I got no notable experience and no items of any kind.  Attempts to repeat this plan with multiple enemies resulted in a very quick death, since even with 24 Agility, I moved slightly slower than almost everything (including tortoises, insultingly enough) and I don't believe I actually dodged even one attack.

Now, if combat is supposed to be that unforgiving and that unprofitable, fine.  Even for a Roguelike though, that's pretty hardcore.  And it'd be nice if there was an upfront warning saying "hey, you're not going to get anywhere trying to play this game like you would NetHeck," but probably more diplomatically.  If combat is not supposed to be that unforgiving and unprofitable, then consider this my critique of the Beta.

[Singularity-SRX]

Even while aiming, I still miss quite a bit

[Repulsion]

Apparently I started with a data-disk of a 'Corrupt Banana'. Anyone know what that is?

Also, what does a telescoping monocle do?

[Deon]

So... I've had my first experience trying this game.  After futzing around with a couple throwaway characters, I thought I'd found a good (i.e. cheap) combination in being a Gunslinger Mutant with the Spinneret power.  I'd lure enemies towards me, trap in a web, and blast them to pieces at close range.

I tried this plan with a Salamander, and it worked fine.  The main problem was that, even with a base Agility of 24, it took over a dozen shots from two tiles away to kill the thing.  And after all that expended shot, I got no notable experience and no items of any kind.  Attempts to repeat this plan with multiple enemies resulted in a very quick death, since even with 24 Agility, I moved slightly slower than almost everything (including tortoises, insultingly enough) and I don't believe I actually dodged even one attack.

Now, if combat is supposed to be that unforgiving and that unprofitable, fine.  Even for a Roguelike though, that's pretty hardcore.  And it'd be nice if there was an upfront warning saying "hey, you're not going to get anywhere trying to play this game like you would NetHeck," but probably more diplomatically.  If combat is not supposed to be that unforgiving and unprofitable, then consider this my critique of the Beta.

Which weapon did you use? Most of guns avaliable early totally suck. You will start killing things much later, with various modded advanced guns. Muskets just don't cover it, swords are much better in the beginning.

[Aqizzar]

I was using the two starting six-shooters.  The fundamental problem is that I don't see how it's possible to survive long enough to get any fancy new stuff.  Killing deadly monsters is worth barely any experience, and surviving such an encounter leaves one extremely vulnerable.  Following the first given quest, I managed to gun down a snapjaw warlord, only to die in two steps to seed-spitting plants upon leaving the room.  "Loot" appears to be virtually nonexistent at any reachable area, and there's hordes of deadly foes around every corner.

I guess my overall question is, how the Hell are you supposed to survive long enough to improve, when surviving even a one-on-one Average fight is an expensive crapshoot?