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[Siquo]

Same here. In the meanwhile I'm both praising and punishing my guts for being so wrong and so right at the same time.

[Siquo]

The guts-theory (someone asked, think it was quinnr?) is as follows: I believe human intuition is vastly superior to conscious thinking in parallel processing large amounts of data. It can also be humoungously wrong, so you shouldn't always rely on it. What I do is I gather data about a subject, as much as I can, let it linger in the back of my head a bit, and out comes a feeling of what should be done. I use this to decide what brand of car to buy, on which girlfriend to take, and on who is scum or not.

Right, screw the guts for now. I've been looking deeply at SirBayer now.

Can't find any scumhunting yet in this game. AT ALL. Except for trying everyone to get Org.

Conclusion: My vote stays, and I would highly encourage everyone here to join me.

Everyone, Org is scum.

He once called Rolan7 "a bit suspicious", but other than that, in the first post he goes for Org, bites down, and then doesn't let go. Ever.

I'm not versed in what is a scumtell and what isn't, and telling me what is, is just WIFOM again, but this is certainly Not Helping Town. Him being an experienced player (I noticed he plays several mafiae at once), that much should be obvious. Never addresses another player directly, and all attacks vaguely in his direction are done away with a "Oh cmon, really?"-kind of reply.

So now that your first target is gone, SirBayer, what is your next step?

[Pandarsenic]

which girlfriend to take

Uh.

[Vector]

which girlfriend to take

Uh.

We'll let that one slide, shall we? >_>

Today's first post has been sharply amended.  Y'all might want to take a look at it for different characterization/tone/content and so on, though the structure is largely the same.


Also, if anyone is under 13, please let me know so I can tone this down.  I just remembered that people like Sonearage have been known to play Mafia.

[spitfire684]

Now thats interesting... the mafia killed someone who was probally the second most suspicious. It poses the question, why the mafia killed him.
Squio, why do you think the mafia killed him?

[SirBayer]

Can't find any scumhunting yet in this game. AT ALL. Except for trying everyone to get Org.

Conclusion: My vote stays, and I would highly encourage everyone here to join me.

Everyone, Org is scum.

He once called Rolan7 "a bit suspicious", but other than that, in the first post he goes for Org, bites down, and then doesn't let go. Ever.

So now that your first target is gone, SirBayer, what is your next step?

I hunted what I thought was scum to the death. I was mistaken. This happens.

My next step is to re-evaluate, as we should all do. We thought we had a target, now we need to go back and check to see what exactly happened.

JaaSwb: In response to your question, I've never, ever, in my life, seen Org do something like that. I've been here... I dunno, a few months. I've played many games with Org. But he's never done that before. It fit very, very wrong, so I figured he was scum. *shrug*

Looking back over thread. I'll be back with evidence.

[SirBayer]

Protip: Reread Org's stuff.

You don't know if he was right, but you do know he was sincere, which is more than you can say for any other player in this game.

Sincere. Yeah. That's something positive that can be said about it.

Spoiler: Everyone (click to show/hide)

Okay, holy shit, guys, not this again.

Org, that's enough.

There is too much against you to even find the appropriate gems to bring up, so let's sum up the accusations against you that I've spotted.

#1 (and the absolute worst): OMGUS. This is a big, big scum tell, even for Org. And you've done it consistently. And admitted to it. And tried to defend it. Speaking of white:
#2: Defensiveness. All over the place! You say you're attacking but you're not. You're either OMGUSing or defending your own bloody actions. Heavens.
#3: Meta, hard meta. Overactivity. We have no reason to believe that overactivity is scumtell directly. However, as town, Org is never active. If he is not town, he must be scum. Ergo, we dispose of him.
#4: Gut feeling/meta. Heavens, Org, this doesn't even sort of sound like you. You don't do this! You just don't.

Conclusion: My vote stays, and I would highly encourage everyone here to join me.

Meta was not my primary reason. If you people (by this I mean everyone in general) continue to try to paint me as scum for reasons that are NOT EVEN BASED IN REALITY, then - I don't know what the hell I'll do, but this is enough of that shit. I have had enough of being accused of things that never happened.

That being said, on to the secondary suspicious folks:

Spoiler: Spitfire (click to show/hide)

Sorry for not posting, didn't know the game had started and only checked my e-mail recently.
I hardly know anyone here, and I am still new to this game so... I dunno at the moment, just finding it hard to say anything at the moment.
Org you seem to be voting quite randomly, you voted me for lurking when we had about 4 lurkers, now voting HFS (unless of course this is a town tactic of random voting which I havent not seen much of). Maybe explain your choice?

Softball attack. No vote, no nothing. Trying to look moderate, like a scumbag.

For a second, Org sounded alot like Kira... his mysterious laugh and him sounding like he has something up his sleeve... (Don't know if anyone will get the Death note reference...).
It makes me wonder, is day shortening actually a good thing to do?

Again, softball, no action, no real conviction. Trying to avoid being suspicious. Trying to avoid looking confrontational. Newbie scum mistake. That's all I've got for now, though.

But the primary subject of inquiry:

FAKEEDIT:

Shit. I assembled bucketloads of evidence against Rolan and, uh, he's dead. Flipped town. I guess it was new-tell, not scum-tell. Dammit.

Lacking my primary suspect, however, I go after the secondary one.

Spitfire, why the non-confrontationalism?

[spitfire684]

Spitfire, why the non-confrontationalism?

Now, use words which actually exist and I will answer it. I don't understand what you actually mean 'Non-confrontationalism', if your saying its because I don't confront anyone then your quite mistaken, I just have.

PS: I just looked up, confrontationalism is not in the english dictionary.

[SirBayer]

Spitfire, why the non-confrontationalism?

Now, use words which actually exist and I will answer it. I don't understand what you actually mean 'Non-confrontationalism', if your saying its because I don't confront anyone then your quite mistaken, I just have.

PS: I just looked up, confrontationalism is not in the english dictionary.

...wow. That is some hard-core question dodging right there, mate. Wow. Just... wow.

What I mean is that you're not really attacking anybody. You're just suggesting that maybe they deserve attacking, saying perhaps they're a little suspicious.

Oh, and now you're acting very defensive, springing when I ask you a question.

[spitfire684]

Im not trying to dodge a question, Im just trying to understand it better. If I can understand it better, maybe you could get much better out of it, hmm?

No confronting... well like I said, I just did. Why I didn't do it much in day 1, I didn't have exactly much evidence to go on. Picking out things which make people scum is not something I have much skill in, to be honnest. I appologise if I am not being a help.
Interesting... you were actually my second suspect. Org was confronting you as well, he might of actually had a good point in doing so, wouldn't you agree?

[SirBayer]

Im not trying to dodge a question, Im just trying to understand it better. If I can understand it better, maybe you could get much better out of it, hmm?

No confronting... well like I said, I just did. Why I didn't do it much in day 1, I didn't have exactly much evidence to go on. Picking out things which make people scum is not something I have much skill in, to be honnest. I appologise if I am not being a help.
Interesting... you were actually my second suspect. Org was confronting you as well, he might of actually had a good point in doing so, wouldn't you agree?

And here you commit two more offenses.

One, OMGUS.

Two, the same non-confrontationalism.

In that last little bit, you accuse me of being scum, but you don't vote, you don't act, you don't anything. You don't want to look bad, do you?

[spitfire684]

I don't want to sound like im being aggressive im trying to sound diplomatic here. Of course a mis-lynch here is not a good thing so we must be careful. What defines as the alien term 'OMGUS',  which sounds like it was invented by some mad internet person, appears to be beyond me.
And, I can only vote one person at a time, unless I was a double voter
And, sorry to sound bothersome, but you kinda dodged my question. I would appriciate if you answered it

[spitfire684]

Do I have to quote myself to prove I have voted? 

[SirBayer]

Interesting... you were actually my second suspect. Org was confronting you as well, he might of actually had a good point in doing so, wouldn't you agree?

THIS question? AHAHAHAHAHhahahahahahahahaah

No, he didn't have a reason. Org was... well, flailing. And failing.

Diplomacy has no place in Mafia. You haven't been aggressive. I reread the entire thing. You've never really followed through on everything, and I couldn't find a single serious pressurevote. Nothing. Not one. You wanna pull up a quote, I'll take it, but I bet you can't find one.

[spitfire684]

Now thats interesting... the mafia killed someone who was probally the second most suspicious. It poses the question, why the mafia killed him.
Squio, why do you think the mafia killed him?

This was a pressure vote, if you havent noticed.
I am trying my best here but I am still a begginner, and I havent been able to follow because of things happeneing in the crazy world of 'real life'...