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[RedKing]

Receive message from client: "Tell him not to worry about it, I talked to the prosecutor. He said it was fine."
[Fucking shock and abject horror from me, followed by stotic calm and phone call]
Client: "Hello."
Me: "You talked to the prosecution, on your own, no one approached you, you went to them?"
Client: "Well hello to you too, and yup."
Me: "What happened, who said what, exactly?"
Client: "He said it was ok and we'd work something out. Not to worry about it."
Me: [awkward silence] "Work something out...? Did he give you any details on that and did you say anything to him?"
Client: "He said we could put it behind us. It's ok, really, I took care of it. Told you it wasn't hard."
Me: [Silence] "You didn't admit to anything did you? Anything?"
Client: "I'm not stupid."
Me: "Get anything in writing saying he'd do anything or not charge you?"
Client: "What, no, look just relax."
Me: "Yeah, he's not gonna honor shit, you know that right? You have nothing with him, nothing.... Plus he probably managed to get you to say something he'll use against you, because by doing this yourself without me...."

Client proceeds to tell me I'm blowing things out of proportion. Two days later, I receive a new evidence of ... guess what from the prosecution.... Admissions of a negative nature volunteered by client.....

[Head...desk] He just ruined my entire theory of the case and defense by admitting to certain things that you wouldn't think would matter.

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[fqllve]

Now imagine the whole transcript as Truean and Dr Z. So appropriate.

[scriver]

Although I don't really think people being overly trusting of others should ever be considered a bad thing.

[Darvi]

Truean, have you tried the stupidity defense?

"Your honor, my client cannot be held responsible for his actions on account of him being a moron."

Now where's that SMBC theatre video...

[RedKing]

Now imagine the whole transcript as Truean and Dr Z. So appropriate.

Does that make Truean Leela? 

Although I don't really think people being overly trusting of others should ever be considered a bad thing.

Do tell....I have some lovely oceanfront property in New Mexico you might be interested in then...

[scriver]

Although I don't really think people being overly trusting of others should ever be considered a bad thing.

Do tell....I have some lovely oceanfront property in New Mexico you might be interested in then...

Taking advantage of other people's naiveté is what is bad, not naive people falling for other people's ruses and lies.

[Max White]

2:18 am... CAN'T FUCKING SLEEP.
Don't even feel tired at all, not one bit, yet can't function. I tried to get some programming done and every few minutes I feel like beating myself over the head with a ladle for the dumbest errors you can imagine. If I start forgetting semi-colons, I swear...

[fqllve]

Although I don't really think people being overly trusting of others should ever be considered a bad thing.

Do tell....I have some lovely oceanfront property in New Mexico you might be interested in then...

Taking advantage of other people's naiveté is what is bad, not naive people falling for other people's ruses and lies.

I agree with this, up until the point where you willingly give information to your own prosecution (or the police for that matter). There's naiveté and there's being blithely ignorant of one's own interests. Law is a shade-filled land where mistrust is a virtue.

[RedKing]

Although I don't really think people being overly trusting of others should ever be considered a bad thing.

Do tell....I have some lovely oceanfront property in New Mexico you might be interested in then...

Taking advantage of other people's naiveté is what is bad, not naive people falling for other people's ruses and lies.

That's a bit like saying "It's the lion's fault for eating him, not the fact that he wandered into a nature preserve while wearing a coat made out of raw meat." I get what you're saying, but c'mon...the world is like that.

[Bauglir]

Imma blame English for using the same word to describe "incorrect" and "evil".

[Frumple]

That's a bit like saying "It's the lion's fault for eating him, not the fact that he wandered into a nature preserve while wearing a coat made out of raw meat." I get what you're saying, but c'mon...the world is like that.

*fist shake*

[RedKing]

That's a bit like saying "It's the lion's fault for eating him, not the fact that he wandered into a nature preserve while wearing a coat made out of raw meat." I get what you're saying, but c'mon...the world is like that.

*fist shake*

I fail to see how either of those apply. I wasn't making a moral judgement, nor attempting to justify it from any perceived (a)morality in the natural world.

I wasn't saying "Lions eat anything too dumb to run away from them, therefore con-men ought to swindle anyone dumb enough to fall for them."

It was more of a "Lions are an environmental danger (in some locations), and cognizance of that danger is the responsibility of the individual. Likewise, being tricked by those with nefarious intent is essentially an environmental danger (in pretty much any location with more than a couple of people in it), and cognizance of that danger is likewise the responsibility of the individual."

[GlyphGryph]

Aqizzar, they are paying you a pittance and expecting 60 hours. They have every intent of burning you out for what little your worth and then tossing you out on your ass. Don't kill themselves for you.

Basic entry-level programming is 40k and up. If they're paying you less, its because they don't expect you to be able to do any real programming. So, just chill, and most importantly don't let them destroy you. You may be salaried, but this doesn't mean your a slave, and it SOUNDS like the sort of job where they are going to fire you as soon as the product gets finished or your up for a pay raise anyways, so use it for the experience but don't kill yourself for them.

And try to avoid picking up bad habits, I guess...

[RedKing]

Aqizzar, they are paying you a pittance and expecting 60 hours. They have every intent of burning you out for what little your worth and then tossing you out on your ass. Don't kill themselves for you.

Basic entry-level programming is 40k and up. If they're paying you less, its because they don't expect you to be able to do any real programming. So, just chill, and most importantly don't let them destroy you. You may be salaried, but this doesn't mean your a slave, and it SOUNDS like the sort of job where they are going to fire you as soon as the product gets finished or your up for a pay raise anyways, so use it for the experience but don't kill yourself for them.

And try to avoid picking up bad habits, I guess...

^^^^^^^^
This.

Sounds like they want a codemonkey on the dirt cheap. Look at it as a way to get hands-on training and make a few bucks to boot. You'll probably be asked to do a lot of the drudge work, which isn't all bad, because it will drill certain skills and knowledge into you by sheer force of repetition.

[ChairmanPoo]

Some acquitances of mine already got a call while I did not so far... bad sign. (Relatively. It's not like I applied for anything I couldnt get anyway, through other means. It'd be a nice opportunity if it came through, but all it means if it doesn't is that I'll look for other venues. I'll also be offended, but that's about it.d)