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[Ahra]

ollanius pious the bravest guy in the history of mankind and ultimately "saved" the imperium, was an ig with all their crappy gear and charged horus whos weapon was bigger than pious and still he defended the emperor..... i think he had igs standard issue steel balls upgraded to mars grade adamantium power balls.

[Something Evil]

No Imperial Guard are the best. LONG LIVE IG ( Screw the emperor )

HERESY! *BLAM*


Also, Pius simply pulled a Thou Shall not Pass in front of Horus, stopping him from killing off his dad. And got turned into a red smear for his troubles.
Secondly, Pius was retconned into oblivion, because GW hates giving people random tidbits of awesome that aren't Ultramarine-centered.

[Ahra]

someone need to put mat ward away from fluffing since the ultras are always on the other side of the galaxy in case of armageddon 2 class incidents and hes still saying they do lots of stuff.

[dogstile]

ollanius pious the bravest guy in the history of mankind and ultimately "saved" the imperium, was an ig with all their crappy gear and charged horus whos weapon was bigger than pious and still he defended the emperor..... i think he had igs standard issue steel balls upgraded to mars grade adamantium power balls.

See, this would be impressive if orkz didn't do that because they think it'd be fun.

[Something Evil]

Well, it is awesome, considering the difference in mentality. Orks don't fear death. The Nightbringer didn't stop by them, apparently. The only problem an Ork will have with dying would be the lack of opportunity to wreck things from then on.

Humans, however, (and especially frontline IG soldiers) are very, very aware of their own mortality. So suppressing that, after passing through a Chaos-puppeted living demigod's ship and staring him down, pulling a TSNP, is made of purest mangrit.

It's the mental viewpoint, and the underlying thoughts and feelings that make it impressive.

Spoiler: Further reading, copied out of a /tg/ post (click to show/hide)

LOOK AT THIS FUCKING GUARDSMAN.

He's spent months fighting a grueling war in which his enemies are demigods allied with daemons, and now he's found himself in the closest thing to Hell he's ever known. He probably wasn't even supposed to get teleported up to the arch-traitor's battle barge in the first place, and just ended up in the wrong place at the worst possible time.

Somehow he's survived horrors beyond comprehension to make his way to the very bridge of Horus' flagship. He saw a veritable angel call upon Horus to answer for his crimes, and he saw that angel die as messily as any guardsman. His Emperor - who he fervently believes is a god incarnate, even if he's not supposed to - lies mortally wounded, and Horus, perhaps, has taken a moment to gloat before he strikes the killing blow.

His armor is slightly more effective than tissue paper, his weapon is slightly more powerful than a flashlight, and Horus' power claw is bigger than his entire body. He stands before a being infused by the dark gods with incalculable power, that can and will obliterate his soul with no more effort than it would take him to swat a gnat. Nothing he can do could possibly make a difference.

He could run. He could turn his weapon on himself. He could give in to the insidious whispers that echo from the ship's corridors into his mind.

Ollanius Pius does the duty his Emperor requires of him. He dies standing, and holding the fucking line.

[Kivish Zokun]

God I hate Mat ward, the ultramarines are such a boring chapter... Why are they made to be so awesome? They are boring compared to chapters such as the Dark Angels/ Blood Angels/ Space Wolves, it'd be far more interesting to see more fluff on the Salamanders or the Imperial Fist, or the tau or any other race....

cheers,

[Something Evil]

I'm starting to get a lot of my fluff from /tg/. The writefags occasionally make something really awesome.

This story, for example, presents why GW should stop kissing the Smurfs' asses.

[NewsMuffin]

I know why GW doesn't write fiction (CODEXES ARE FACTS STFU LOLOL) for other races, and it's a valid reason, as opposed to 'SPAC MAREENS ARE SUPAR KEWL."
It's because people can relate to the characters if they are the same race. If you read a book narrated by an Eldar, you'd be pretty confused because of the culture change, and because her/his mind works in a completely different way than yours.

That doesn't mean that they can't write for other races, it just means that it's harder.
I mean, imagine writing something that a whole other species would write, and actually sound believable.

[Detrevni|inverteD]

Ork fiction.

Need I say more?

[Kivish Zokun]

I know why GW doesn't write fiction (CODEXES ARE FACTS STFU LOLOL) for other races, and it's a valid reason, as opposed to 'SPAC MAREENS ARE SUPAR KEWL."
It's because people can relate to the characters if they are the same race. If you read a book narrated by an Eldar, you'd be pretty confused because of the culture change, and because her/his mind works in a completely different way than yours.

That doesn't mean that they can't write for other races, it just means that it's harder.
I mean, imagine writing something that a whole other species would write, and actually sound believable.

Thats sort of vaild I guess, but space marines aren't exactly human, I personally cant relate to a religious fanatic whose 7 feet tall and is a killing machine :p...

Although if you mean fiction about the IG then yeah thats true.

cheers,

[NewsMuffin]

Yeah, but you can relate to a Space Marine easier than an Ork or an Eldar.
But yeah, that was really directed at the Imperium of Man, not just Space Marines.

[Kivish Zokun]

Ah fair enough then, hmm I guess so that does make sense.

Although back to my original point, why does GW love the Ultramarines so much?! I mean even just looking at Space Marines there are so many more interesting chapters that dont even have that much fluff compared to the ultramines... E.g The raven guard or the Iron hands?

cheers,

[Ivefan]

Ah fair enough then, hmm I guess so that does make sense.

Although back to my original point, why does GW love the Ultramarines so much?! I mean even just looking at Space Marines there are so many more interesting chapters that dont even have that much fluff compared to the ultramines... E.g The raven guard or the Iron hands?

cheers,

fanboy-ism?

[NewsMuffin]

Yeah, GW loev UltraMarines.
Recently, they've been getting better about it on their website though. They replaced some of the model pictures with red versions, and they're releasing addon kits to make other space marine chapters without making all of the extra bits yourself.

[Something Evil]

red versions

Did someone say "Blood Ravens"?

TBH, it's not only fanboyism, it's also marketing. Last I checked, making a decent Spess Mehren (that is, Smurf) army will put you back a bit more than a destroyer-heavy 'cron army. So poking your eyes out with them is in their interest.

And also consider this: Who got into the tabletop via the tabletop is likely going to hump Clagar's leg for a while, and who got in via the computer games is going to drool over their Blood Ravens.


Also, GW hates the Dark Eldar.