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[Judenbaer]

I've got plenty of other stuff if you want it.  Mostly new weapons and ammo, one new armor type, so forth.

Ammo (A note: I've got the damages rebalanced.  Vanilla bolts and arrows do 100, I've set bolts to 70 and named them "quarrels", and arrows are now 30.  Still quite deadly, but less hand-cannon'y).

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These do all work, as well.  The flaming ones are Fun.  I personally use bullets and shot to differentiate between muskets and arquebuses.  The main disadvantage of either is that they cost more materials to make.  Unfortunately, all ammo can be made the same, so you can get bone and shell and wooden bullets.

The barbed and broadhead do seem to stick into the target with 100% chance.  Flat arrows do fairly good blunt damage, but are otherwise the most inferior arrow.  Bodkin arrows are the ones designed to be used like the old ones, IE, super armor piercing happy fun times for every Dwarf.  Broadheads are the same as the Bodkins functionally, except with their, well, broad head, they have a 100% chance to stick - basically, a "barbed arrow".

For general balance purposes, I held the Flaming arrows and quarrels back to just a few races, Humans (And Human Bandits) and Dwarves, mostly, but also Orcs and Snakemen.  Goblins get everything but the flaming, since it would be a bit too Fun.


item_ammo_new

[OBJECT:ITEM]

[ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_FIREBOLTS]
[NAME:flaming quarrels:flaming quarrels]
[CLASS:BOLT]
[DAMAGE:70:HEAT]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[STICK_CHANCE:30]

[ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BARBBOLTS]
[NAME:barbed quarrel:barbed quarrels]
[CLASS:BOLT]
[DAMAGE:85:PIERCE]
[STICK_CHANCE:100]

[ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BODKIN]
[NAME:Bodkin arrow:Bodkin arrows]
[CLASS:ARROW]
[DAMAGE:60:PIERCE]
[STICK_CHANCE:30]

[ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_FLAT]
[NAME:flathead arrow:flathead arrows]
[CLASS:ARROW]
[DAMAGE:30:BLUDGEON]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

[ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_FIRE]
[NAME:fire arrow:fire arrows]
[CLASS:ARROW]
[DAMAGE:30:HEAT]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[STICK_CHANCE:30]

[ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BROAD]
[NAME:broadhead arrow:broadhead arrows]
[CLASS:ARROW]
[DAMAGE:60:PIERCE]
[STICK_CHANCE:100]

[ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BARBDARTS]
[NAME:barbed dart:barbed darts]
[CLASS:BLOWDART]
[DAMAGE:20:PIERCE]
[STICK_CHANCE:100]

[ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_SHOT]
[NAME:shot:shots]
[CLASS:SHOT]
[DAMAGE:120:BLUDGEON]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

[ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BULLET]
[NAME:bullet:bullets]
[CLASS:BULLET]
[DAMAGE:200:PIERCE]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

Weapons

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Admittedly, a fair amount are more geared towards humans and such.  Note that the Warpick as well as the Estoc and Rapier are basically kickass and may need some nerfing.  The daggers all seem to do perfectly fine.  The swords are all fairly balanced out.  I wish I could get the machete to count as both a "sword" and an "axe" so that you could use it to cut down jungles.  Which is why there's a second machete.

So many are [CAN_STONE] because it seemed weird to me that only a basic short sword could be used (I've also looked around and/or already knew that, aside from the vanilla Obsidian, Flint, Chert, Quartzite and technically Quartz are all [SHARP], although I was afraid to give it to Quartz on account of it being a gem and probably not designed to work with the tag.  The others work well with it.).  Unfortunately, after testing, I could not make stone bolts, so [CAN_STONE] doesn't work on ammo.

Generally speaking, having so many stonable weapons is a good thing, especially in a metal-deficient map, which I've often found coincides with layers of flint.  Dwarves can be pretty fierce just with a few flint spears and axes, and it allows alternative forms of preparing a fort.

I've mostly distributed these with Humans and Orcs in mind, although distribute as you see fit.

item_weapon_new

[OBJECT:ITEM]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BROADSWORD]
[NAME:broad sword:broad swords]
[DAMAGE:130:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:80]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[CRIT_BOOST:1]
[TWO_HANDED:6]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:6]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:4]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_NODACHI]
[NAME:nodachi:nodachi]
[DAMAGE:155:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:90]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:7]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:7]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:5]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_KATANA]
[NAME:katana:katana]
[DAMAGE:145:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:70]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:7]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:5]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:5]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WAKIZASHI]
[NAME:wakizashi:wakizashi]
[DAMAGE:100:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:30]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:4]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:4]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_TANTO]
[NAME:tanto:tanto]
[DAMAGE:80:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:20]
[SKILL:DAGGER]
[CRIT_BOOST:3]
[TWO_HANDED:3]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:3]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_FALCHION]
[NAME:falchion:falchions]
[DAMAGE:110:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:30]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[TWO_HANDED:4]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:4]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_GLADIUS]
[NAME:gladius:gladii]
[DAMAGE:100:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:30]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[CRIT_BOOST:1]
[TWO_HANDED:4]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:4]
[CAN_STONE]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SHAMSHIR]
[NAME:shamshir:shamshirs]
[DAMAGE:100:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:30]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:4]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:4]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SABER]
[NAME:saber:sabers]
[DAMAGE:90:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:30]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:4]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:4]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CUTLASS]
[NAME:cutlass:cutlasses]
[DAMAGE:90:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:30]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:4]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:4]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_RAPIER]
[NAME:rapier:rapiers]
[DAMAGE:70:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:20]
[SKILL:DAGGER]
[CRIT_BOOST:3]
[TWO_HANDED:3]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:3]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SEAX]
[NAME:seax:seaxes]
[DAMAGE:80:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:20]
[SKILL:DAGGER]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:3]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:3]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_KUKRI]
[NAME:kukri:kukris]
[DAMAGE:90:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:20]
[SKILL:DAGGER]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:3]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:3]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_ELVENLONGSWORD]
[NAME:Elven sword:Elven swords]
[DAMAGE:140:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:70]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[CRIT_BOOST:1]
[TWO_HANDED:6]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:6]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:4]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_ELVENLONGSWORD2]
[NAME:Elven sabre:Elven sabres]
[DAMAGE:140:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:70]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[CRIT_BOOST:1]
[TWO_HANDED:6]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:6]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:4]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_GLAIVE]
[NAME:glaive:glaives]
[DAMAGE:130:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:40]
[SKILL:SPEAR]
[TWO_HANDED:7]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:7]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:6]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_FALX]
[NAME:two-handed falx:two-handed falxes]
[DAMAGE:180:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:100]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:7]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:7]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:6]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_FLAMBARGE]
[NAME:flambarge:flambarges]
[DAMAGE:160:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:90]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[CRIT_BOOST:1]
[TWO_HANDED:7]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:7]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:5]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_KRIS]
[NAME:kris:krises]
[DAMAGE:70:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:20]
[SKILL:DAGGER]
[CRIT_BOOST:3]
[TWO_HANDED:3]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:3]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]
[STICK_CHANCE:10]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HATCHET]
[NAME:hatchet:hatchets]
[DAMAGE:80:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:60]
[SKILL:AXE]
[TWO_HANDED:4]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:4]
[CAN_STONE]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HATCHET2]
[NAME:doloire:doloires]
[DAMAGE:80:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:60]
[SKILL:AXE]
[TWO_HANDED:4]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:4]
[CAN_STONE]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_TRIDENT]
[NAME:trident:tridents]
[DAMAGE:100:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:40]
[SKILL:SPEAR]
[CRIT_BOOST:3]
[TWO_HANDED:5]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:5]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BOARSPEAR]
[NAME:boar spear:boar spears]
[DAMAGE:100:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:40]
[SKILL:SPEAR]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:5]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:5]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]
[CAN_STONE]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BARBEDSPEAR]
[NAME:barbed spear:barbed spears]
[DAMAGE:110:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:40]
[SKILL:SPEAR]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:5]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:5]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]
[STICK_CHANCE:100]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_QUARTERSTAFF]
[NAME:quarterstaff:quarterstaves]
[DAMAGE:100:BLUDGEON]
[WEIGHT:60]
[SKILL:SPEAR]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:6]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:6]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:6]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_BASTARD]
[NAME:bastard sword:bastard swords]
[DAMAGE:130:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:70]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:6]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:6]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:4]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_ESTOC]
[NAME:estoc:estocs]
[DAMAGE:130:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:70]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:6]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:5]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:4]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_ANELACE]
[NAME:anelace:anelaces]
[DAMAGE:90:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:30]
[SKILL:DAGGER]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:3]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:2]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BASELARD]
[NAME:baselard:baselards]
[DAMAGE:85:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:25]
[SKILL:DAGGER]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:3]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:3]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CINQUEDEA]
[NAME:cinquedea:cinquedii]
[DAMAGE:85:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:25]
[SKILL:DAGGER]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:3]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:2]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_DIRK]
[NAME:dirk:dirks]
[DAMAGE:85:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:25]
[SKILL:DAGGER]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:3]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:2]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]
[STICK_CHANCE:5]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_PONIARD]
[NAME:poniard:poniards]
[DAMAGE:75:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:10]
[SKILL:DAGGER]
[CRIT_BOOST:3]
[TWO_HANDED:3]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:2]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_RONDEL]
[NAME:rondel:rondels]
[DAMAGE:75:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:15]
[SKILL:DAGGER]
[CRIT_BOOST:3]
[TWO_HANDED:3]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:2]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MESSER]
[NAME:grobes messer:grobes messers]
[DAMAGE:100:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:30]
[SKILL:DAGGER]
[CRIT_BOOST:2]
[TWO_HANDED:4]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:3]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:2]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MACHETE]
[NAME:machete:machetes]
[DAMAGE:120:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:30]
[SKILL:SWORD]
[TWO_HANDED:4]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:4]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MACHETE2]
[NAME:jungle machete:jungle machetes]
[DAMAGE:120:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:30]
[SKILL:AXE]
[TWO_HANDED:4]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:4]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WARPICK]
[NAME:war pick:war picks]
[DAMAGE:110:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:50]
[SKILL:AXE]
[CRIT_BOOST:3]
[TWO_HANDED:5]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:5]
[CAN_STONE]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:4]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_LOCHABER]
[NAME:lochaber axe:lochaber axes]
[DAMAGE:130:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:120]
[SKILL:AXE]
[TWO_HANDED:5]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:5]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:5]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MILITARYFORK]
[NAME:military fork:military forks]
[DAMAGE:130:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:45]
[SKILL:SPEAR]
[CRIT_BOOST:3]
[TWO_HANDED:5]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:5]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]
[STICK_CHANCE:20]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_ARQUEBUS]
[NAME:arquebus:arquebuses]
[DAMAGE:80:BLUDGEON]
[WEIGHT:50]
[SKILL:HAMMER]
[RANGED:CROSSBOW:SHOT]
[TWO_HANDED:0]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:5]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:6]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MUSKET]
[NAME:musket:muskets]
[DAMAGE:80:BLUDGEON]
[WEIGHT:60]
[SKILL:HAMMER]
[RANGED:CROSSBOW:BULLET]
[TWO_HANDED:0]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:5]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:9]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

Armor

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Not as impressive as the others, I've only added one type of armor.  To my knowledge it seems to work, but may need more testing.  Functionally, it's designed as the halfway point between Plate and Chain.

Wish I had more forts that actually had the ability to produce metal, otherwise I'd be able to test it more properly.  As it is, I'll be damned if any of my magmapipes are ever over any metal, and damned if any of my metal-rich maps have any magma OR wood.  Double damned if they don't have an aquifer either way.

item_armor_new

[OBJECT:ITEM]

[ITEM_ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_SCALEMAIL]
[NAME:scale mail:scale mail]
[PREPLURAL:suits of]
[WEIGHT:100]
[VALUE:85]
[ARMORLEVEL:2]
[MAINBLOCK:60]
[SECONDBLOCK:40]
[UBSTEP:1]
[LBSTEP:1]
[LAYER:ARMOR]
[COVERAGE:100]
[LAYER_SIZE:17]
[LAYER_PERMIT:50]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:7]
[HARD]
[METAL]

Edit: I can confirm that the Mountainhome will send Scalemail, but I can't say if it works yet or not, or if it can be made at the fort or not.

That arrow nerf should hold me over untill Toady releases the next version, where they're supposedly not as mp40+small chainsaw-esque.

[Nivim]

 I fear adding to much as all of this new stuff will make my creation lists too long. Also, how do you set the damage modifier for different stones in relation to [CAN_STONE]? I don't want to allow other types of stone to be used for weapons unless I can modify how effective they are. Obsidian is much sharper than flint when made into a blade.

 Oh, and does anyone want to try and make a graphics set for some of the new race/creatures. To many of the look the same and with my tileset the xelics and dynasauri are both cabinets. I tried my hand at it, but I haven't managed anything that looks good. The xelics always come out fat, with bad heads, and the dynasauri look like they haven't eaten in many years.

[Shima]

Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, the implications of adding [SHARP] to stones means an automatic 50% (Edit: I...think?  I'm actually not sure, I haven't looked into it yet because I'm lazy).  I did it mostly because Obsidian, for me, tends to be fairly rare, especially when compared to other stones that were commonly used for weaponry.  Nearly every world I've gen'd has a fairly high concentration of flint.

I was also especially annoyed by the lack of [CAN_STONE] items due to the fact that spears, maces, and basic (if highly breakable) axes were all possible and somewhat common to our ancestors.  Makes sense that the Dwarves of all races would know how to use it.  Currently I haven't added [CAN_STONE] to the basic mace yet, but I might shortly.

So far I've had no problems navigating the Craftsdwarf shops with the amount of stone weaponry available, it comes out to less than, or exactly at, one page worth at best.

[Nivim]

 Well, I have heard and seen from elsewhere that obsidian weapons are somewhere around the strength of steel. I guess the represents their razor sharp edges. But I have a feeling that the [SHARP] tag will have the same effect on flint, which is quite wrong.

 Try the smith, I am talking about the full list of weapons.

[Shima]

Ahh, yes, the FULL list.  Well, of course it's long, but I've been working on specifically balancing so that each has it's own minute advantages over the others - haven't finished doing that yet though, at least not with the full list.  What few times I have access to metal, I never had problems making what I want done (Thankfully, it's all segregated by metal type).

Especially since Dwarfs don't get ALL of those, I split the weapons up throughout the DF races and my own (Added Snakemen, Lizardmen, and Bandits from another mod).  After all, Dwarves shouldn't be making, say, Elven Sabres at their forges, that's High Treason!

Edit: My favorite of the foodstuffs I added.

[Blargityblarg]

Oh, Shima. Your metal-poor fortresses make me wish I'd saved the seed of the world that had that site with dolomite, magma, magnetite and coal out the wazoo, and a border-aquifer.

Imma see if I can find it in my recycle bin.

[Shima]

I got semi-lucky with the latest one.  While digging out the apartment blocs, I managed to dig right into a deposit of hematite and platinum.  The problem here, well, I'm in the middle of a scrubland (Evil one, trying to spot a new creature I added to make sure it works since it's highly non-standard) with no access to magma and short wood supplies.

And constant attacks by Zombies.  Not the regular kind, a modded in Civ kind that poison you very badly if they bite and love to attack.  Think Orcs, except they don't bleed or breathe.

[lastofthelight]

I finally took a detailed look at this mod. Its pretty sweet. It includes most of the features I have to sort through and re-add in by hand everytime I forget where I put my copy of DF on my disorganized computer/update to a new version...PLUS more! I'll definately be using this now as a base atop my vanilla DF, it'll save me a ton of work.


ADD ME.


P.S. Yes, you'd be amazed how often I really do reinstall DF. I probably have like 40 complete installations of it on my computer. I have no idea why I reinstall it so often.

[The13thRonin]

I finally took a detailed look at this mod. Its pretty sweet. It includes most of the features I have to sort through and re-add in by hand everytime I forget where I put my copy of DF on my disorganized computer/update to a new version...PLUS more! I'll definately be using this now as a base atop my vanilla DF, it'll save me a ton of work.


ADD ME.


P.S. Yes, you'd be amazed how often I really do reinstall DF. I probably have like 40 complete installations of it on my computer. I have no idea why I reinstall it so often.

Testimony added to the front page!

[Keita]

this mod kicks arse, what graphics tile sets does this work with and how can I get them to work?

[fungee]

Hmmm, why can't I build magma forge & smelters    ( they don't show up in workshop / furnace menus )

EDIT: They show up in Vanilla DF

[The13thRonin]

Hmmm, why can't I build magma forge & smelters    ( they don't show up in workshop / furnace menus )

EDIT: They show up in Vanilla DF

You can only build them on a map that has magma. That's same as vanilla...

[AtomicPaperclip]

Orc wresters = naked
Orc hammerers = full steel

?

[fungee]

Hmmm, why can't I build magma forge & smelters    ( they don't show up in workshop / furnace menus )

EDIT: They show up in Vanilla DF

You can only build them on a map that has magma. That's same as vanilla...

Maybe I should've added THERE IS MAGMA.

The problem is I don't have magma buildings showing up in the building menus... And I have no idea why 

[Kohou]

Is it possible to combine this with the Civ Forge or Legendary Lands mods? 
Or do they both use too many similar things?