NQTHector13, your case is absurd and poorly researched. On D1 I speculated that Max (who had a daykill) performed the kill on Tea. I didn't say anything about who killed Max then. I've explained any caginess I might have had D1 if you read my last few post. To recap: I decided not to claim on D1 so that I wouldn't be a target n1. You might say that this is selfish, but give Tric's role powers are all gone it did in fact turn out to be the right move. This is a high-powered game and I wanted to use a trick up my sleeve.
Also I didn't claim D1 that I had really good info... just that it wouldn't have been town-sided to reveal (the Persus stuff etc) straight away.
Further, your rationale for players not counter-claiming me (if I had been lying) directly contradicts your attack for me not claiming. If it was unsafe to counterclaim a kill in your eyes, then why was it safe to claim a kill?
Who has the best motive for doubting a confirmed mafiakiller actually killed the mafia? The mafia.
You were cagey on D1 because you misread your PM? This makes little sense.
You were cagey on D1 because you wanted to use your powers in the night? I’ll deal with that later in the post.
Your votes on D1 were, in order, a player with a guilty result, a player who voted the player who gave the guilty result, and a pressure vote on an inactive player, where your vote rested for the remainder of the day. How is an inactive player more likely to be scum than a player who was voting against a claimed guaranteed sane inspect?
You’re not doing well reading things this game, it seems. I said it was foolish to claim a re-usable kill. You claimed a 1-shot, which is now useless. Who wants to stay alive and not draw the attention of malicious parties away from a guaranteed sane inspect? Scum.
What was the trick up your sleeve? You’ve claimed a now useless kill as a power and you’re a BUDDY with Persus. Did it prove more useful than a guaranteed sane inspect that you trusted enough to blow through a 1-shot on D1?
How are you a confirmed mafiakiller? Because you said so? Well I’m town. Oh noes, you’re voting confirmed town!
RGUHector13: So if NQT didn't do the kill, then why hasn't the real daykiller claimed by now? And by that logic then nobody else could have done the kill since no one claimed it during Day 1. You say it's easily disproven and that multiple players could have targeted him, but so far no one has counterclaimed it. While you're right that not claiming the kill if it was a single use is suspicious, NQT did push towards a Maximum Spin lynch, so it makes sense that he would daykill him.
I think I didn’t explain myself very well. The real daykiller is either town with a reusable kill, or they’re third-party and don’t want to reveal they have a kill. Either way, it is sensible for them to keep that information a secret from scum. And the town in the case of the latter.
I said it was
difficult to disprove whether any one player performed a kill (outside of tracking/watching abilities like Kit’s Night Watchman role, for example) which is why even if someone did counterclaim the MaxSpin kill, NQT could say they targeted him with a kill too.
It would make sense for NQT to kill MaxSpin, but that would mean he was fully trusting of Tric’s claim too because he claims to have used a 1-shot kill on D1 as a consequence. If he was fully trusting of Tric’s claim - a guaranteed sane alignment inspect - why would he not try to protect that incredibly powerful role?
He claims it was so he could use his powers at night, but, taken from a town perspective on D1, we don’t know how many scum there are, and being able to eliminate even one player from a lynching is useful to town because it reduces the chances of a mislynch. Since he hasn’t claimed anything so far this day, beyond misreading his PM and that he’s linked to Persus, I very much doubt whatever he did during the night was as useful as a guaranteed sane inspect that could eliminate players from our lynch pool, or eliminate scum from the game.
In short, he claims to have trusted Tric’s claim of a guaranteed sane alignment inspect enough to use a 1-shot kill on D1, but is unwilling to draw attention away from Tric by claiming said kill on D1 because he wanted to use his own powers in the night, which are probably not as powerful as a guaranteed sane alignment inspect, since the only thing he has claimed so far today is that he can’t read his role PM.
Consequently, I believe his kill claim to be a fake. It is a good fakeclaim because it is difficult to disprove, and he has shown he is willing to use his apparently “confirmed” kill of a mafia player as evidence he can’t be scum.
Any questions, anyone? I think the case makes sense and I hope I’ve expressed it well, at least in the preceding two paragraphs, but I’m the one making it, so... yeah. Questions?
Note: if anyone
can prove NQT made the kill, my case doesn’t make sense and NQT can’t be scum, unless there’s more than one team, which I think is unlikely. He could feasibly be third party in that case, but Nirur flipped SK, and I’m not sure quite how unbalanced Shakerag wold be inclined to make the game...
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