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[Sheb]

UF-PAR-41 "Trustfall" (3): Powder Miner, Jilladilla, Piratejoe
Z Improvements (1): SMMI
UF-IFV-41 Res (1): Sheb

[Madman198237]

UF-PAR-41 "Trustfall" (3): Powder Miner, Jilladilla, Piratejoe
Z Improvements (2): SMMI, Madman198237
UF-IFV-41 Res (1): Sheb

I think we have a solid shot at gaining enough naval superiority to make a solid landing attempt on the Tundra, at least, we do if we deploy more jets. Grabbing the Tundra pushes their Bull back to VE, I believe, and will likely force the Spearhead to stay at E (At least after this turn, anyway), which will really hurt Cannala's armored advantage and air power.

[evictedSaint]

Revision: Saltgrinder Rocket Package

Based on the success of our mobile rocket-launcher artillery, the Saltgrinder Rocket Package is simply Sarukh rockets with a bit more warhead rather than propellant, mounted on the Salamander, Breaker, Stinger, and Haast.  Shorter rails for the rockets allows the configuration to be lighter, albeit with a penalty to accuracy.  At least two can be mounted on each Salamander, four on each Breaker, and up to a tonne on the Haast.  This shouldn't be an issue, since the weapon is designed to be used at shorter ranges or in dives.  The Saltgrinder can be mounted on Salamanders to give them a fighting chance against enemy tanks, on our Breakers to give them a larger punch against both heavy and lighter armor, and on our planes to give them a more accurate and proactive role in eliminating enemy tanks and light ships.

The Saltgrinder fills a role our army is missing. 

The jungle is going to be wet this year, so our fire weapons will be less effective.  The saltgrinder lets us still use our air power while being effective on the ground; combined with our new jet, it should be effective enough to ensure we gain ground.

The Saltgrinder is fully supported by the PAROI Party and carries their stamp of approval.

[stabbymcstabstab]

UF-PAR-41 "Trustfall" (4): Powder Miner, Jilladilla, Piratejoe, Stabby
Z Improvements (2): SMMI, Madman198237
UF-IFV-41 Res (1): Sheb

[NUKE9.13]

UF-PAR-41 "Trustfall" (5): Powder Miner, Jilladilla, Piratejoe, Stabby, NUKE9.13
Z Improvements (2): SMMI, Madman198237
UF-IFV-41 Res (1): Sheb

[NAV]

UF-PAR-41 "Trustfall" (6): Powder Miner, Jilladilla, Piratejoe, Stabby, NUKE9.13, NAV
Z Improvements (2): SMMI, Madman198237
UF-IFV-41 Res (1): Sheb

[Taricus]

UF-PAR-41 "Trustfall" (7): Powder Miner, Jilladilla, Piratejoe, Stabby, NUKE9.13, NAV, Taricus
Z Improvements (2): SMMI, Madman198237
UF-IFV-41 Res (1): Sheb

[3_14159]

I don't really believe a parachute will be helpful. What we need is something to get many troops plus heavy support onto the beaches without getting intercepted. For that, let's take the

UF-LSL-41 "Arbitrary Amphibian"
The United Forenian Landing Ship Large (41) "Arbitrary Amphibian" is what happens when you recognize the Archer cannot sink if it's beached. It removes the main guns, replacing them with mockups to save weight and adds bow doors and a ramp allowing infantry and vehicles to disembark directly onto the beach. Since it looks sufficiently similar to a real Archer, it can be hidden in formation. The addition of a few close-combat weapons to suppress beach defenses completes the vessel.

UF-PAR-41 "Trustfall" (7): Powder Miner, Jilladilla, Piratejoe, Stabby, NUKE9.13, NAV, Taricus
Z Improvements (2): SMMI, Madman198237
UF-IFV-41 Res (1): Sheb
UF-LSL-41 "Arbitrary Amphibian" (1): 3_14159

[Kot]

Whatever we design, I think we should revise this:

UF-PAR-41 'Trustfall': Our parachutes are old and ineffective. Time for an upgrade. The Trustfall series consists of both cargo and personnel parachutes, made from modern materials, designed by Forenia's top aerodynamics experts for optimum performance. The cargo varieties are designed to carry heavy payloads of up to several tonnes, with the possibility of multiple parachutes being used to allow even vehicles like the Salamander to be airdropped. The personnel varieties have also had their weight limit increased, but perhaps more importantly, modifications to the canopy and lines give the user a limited ability to manoeuvre during their descent, enabling paratroopers to land far more precisely and safely.

This would let us use the Ice Giant and Reckless Effect more effectively. See the note in the battle report about paratroopers lacking anti-armour equipment- this would fix that. And it is a necessary step if we want to launch large-scale aerial invasions.

Put a rocket on it.

[Sensei]

Whatever we design, I think we should revise this:

UF-PAR-41 'Trustfall': Our parachutes are old and ineffective. Time for an upgrade. The Trustfall series consists of both cargo and personnel parachutes, made from modern materials, designed by Forenia's top aerodynamics experts for optimum performance. The cargo varieties are designed to carry heavy payloads of up to several tonnes, with the possibility of multiple parachutes being used to allow even vehicles like the Salamander to be airdropped. The personnel varieties have also had their weight limit increased, but perhaps more importantly, modifications to the canopy and lines give the user a limited ability to manoeuvre during their descent, enabling paratroopers to land far more precisely and safely.

This would let us use the Ice Giant and Reckless Effect more effectively. See the note in the battle report about paratroopers lacking anti-armour equipment- this would fix that. And it is a necessary step if we want to launch large-scale aerial invasions.

Note; a series of different parachutes is asking too much for a revision. I'll have you do the cargo ones; they're listed first and will probably make a bigger difference.

Normal: 5
UF-PAR-41 'Trustfall': These are large, circular nylon parachutes, capable of supporting cargo crates on wooden pallets, or supporting some vehicles on a two-parachute rig with specialized wooden pallets under the wheels.

These will support your Salamander.

[Taricus]

Our paratroopers are also getting salamanders. THAT will help in the jungle, and paradrops, immensely

[Madman198237]

We'll be unstoppable on invasions, even if I worry about naval air power.

I mean, I suppose I shouldn't considering how much better our jets just became. Single-engine turbofans, single-engine turbofans everywhere!

Oh, for strategy:

1 Push North (Jungle): Madman198237
1 Push South (Tundra): Madman198237

[Jilladilla]

This is where we decide what to do with the Espionage Credit and the German Ore/Oil choice yeah?

[Taricus]

Indeed it is. Time to grab the victoria wouldn't you say?

I mean, I suppose I shouldn't considering how much better our jets just became. Single-engine turbofans, single-engine turbofans everywhere!

Did we bathtub those jet fighters?

2 Push North (Jungle): Madman198237, Taricus
2 Push South (Tundra): Madman198237, Taricus

1 Steal the Cannalan Victoria: Taricus

1 Take the german ore: Taricus

[Madman198237]

2 Push North (Jungle): Madman198237, Taricus
2 Push South (Tundra): Madman198237, Taricus

2 Steal the Cannalan Victoria: Taricus, Madman198237

2 Take the german ore: Taricus, Madman198237

No, no bathtubs. They are defended by their maneuverability, like other fighters from the same era. A revision might include minor seat armor and some extra plates, along with an afterburner and/or the 25mm guns.