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[Shadowlord]

Well, chaoticag, you did the one thing that would provoke me into dispelling Burden of Time.

[ThtblovesDF]

Out of 25 Commanders in a province, Vengeful Waters attacked the 3 Thugs :/ - Vanrus certainly is having a comeback and might even take marigons former capital back : /

[chaoticag]

Well, chaoticag, you did the one thing that would provoke me into dispelling Burden of Time.

Please, go ahead and toss more gems into this.

[Culise]

Having punched a giant hole in the covering force blocking its northern army from moving, Vanarus is now preparing to liberate its provinces surrounding the capital in preparation for a last stand.  That includes certain opportunistic sorts who decided that this war would be a great chance to snag a free province or two. 

[ThtblovesDF]

Not that I would stop you from making a mistake, but ulm didn't really attack you, it was the enchanted-forests global that spawns armys/attacks.

[Culise]

Then they won't mind if I happen to move into that province.  You might, but that's obviously another story. ^_^

[ThtblovesDF]

Forgive the slow turn, I was waiting for messages that just didn't show up yet.

So is the order of armys moving set (i.e. Vanrus always seems to move before me) or randrom each turn?

[Delta Foxtrot]

I'm not sure how well you know movement so I'm going explain assuming 0:

Moves into friendly provinces happen,
Then moves into non-friendly provinces happen,
Then resulting fights are resolved

I've read (and we all know how fuzzy hard data on Dominions is) that if two armies are moving at each other, one of them sits while other attacks. This is random but larger armies are more likely to attack successfully. Apparently there's also a chance the armies will both move (ie. no battle), which is more likely when they are small.

edit:
In plain terms, you can't ever catch an enemy army by moving onto its space if it is also moving.
edit2:
Ritual based movements and fights happen earlier, so it is possible to teleport something on top of an enemy before they get the chance to move away.
If you don't know it already, page 80 of the manual has a really handy turn resolution sequence:
http://www.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

[ThtblovesDF]

I knew most of that - thing is both me and Vanrus are nearly always moving into enemy territory - me hunting his army, him moving away from my army and running over the war-torne lands of his former nation, so it's a silly game of chicken where I can't possibly catch up unless I "speed" around him at some junction, somehow.


Like so:
O1 = Army
V = Vanrus Army
O2 = Some province I own

[O1] -> [V] -> [O2]

O1 moves to attack [V], [V] moves to O2, so next turn we have the same state, again, except shifted one and me more annoyed.


[O2] -> [O1] -> [V]  -> (another O2)

[Delta Foxtrot]

Rituals are great if you can do anything on that front. Otherwise you'll need fast and/or multiple armies. Pangaea is one of my favourites partly because if anyone starts attacking my lands, I can just use my strong MM3 troops to intercept them. No idea if your sea centaurs are as badass. But if you can't catch him then fair enough. Trade province for province to buy time and kill his forts. That ought to do it.

[ThtblovesDF]

Aye - centaurs are badass - and expensive. At least his capital doesn't move ; )

On another note, thanks to Burden of Time, my sirens are now old (80)+ - but there sexyness for luring people to there death still remains, which is oddly entertaining.

[chaoticag]

To be perfectly honest, maybe in the last 6 months, standards of beauty have changed since everyone else aged too. That or they're still screaming about it.

[ThtblovesDF]

Lovly thought.

The Army of mixed critters and picked up charm'd troops is on the front door or the Capital, 2 provinces away and vanrus has all its eggs in one basket - only thing I wonder is if he will split his army to safe the earth king or put a decent fight in the capital instead? We'll see!


Edit: If Vanrus had done a double turn, we would have a turn like 4 hours after the last - impressive.

[Shadowlord]

It wasn't waiting for Vanarus, it was waiting for me.

[chaoticag]

Well, we're pretty close to blitzing this as is. I think we're good.