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What happens now?

Import YG2 stuff to YG-lite
- 9 (27.3%)
Import YG2 stuff to YG-lite
- 10 (30.3%)
Start from scratch for YG-lite
- 4 (12.1%)
Start from scratch for YG-lite
- 3 (9.1%)
Do both
- 5 (15.2%)
Do both
- 2 (6.1%)

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Author Topic: Ye Gods 2 OOC [31/137] [Sign-ups go here]  (Read 247155 times)

Kilojoule Proton

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Re: Ye Gods 2 OOC (~12-36h to launch) [20/137]
« Reply #165 on: August 18, 2015, 05:21:57 pm »

Spoiler: Survey results now (click to show/hide)

Stirk: Yes, and I think I've updated the cooperation discount section now
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Stirk

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Re: Ye Gods 2 OOC (~12-36h to launch) [20/137]
« Reply #166 on: August 18, 2015, 05:25:24 pm »

Interestingly, it seems most of the YGO vote for things like keeping the council, while people with more experience with Litany vote for things like disbanding the council. I wonder if New guard VS Old makes any difference?

*Checks*

I don't think it got updated yet  :-\.
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Re: Ye Gods 2 OOC (~12-36h to launch) [20/137]
« Reply #167 on: August 18, 2015, 05:33:16 pm »

Whoops, now it is!

Now that you mention it, I do see a correlation between newer players tending to want to disband the Council and older players tending to want to keep it (or at least not actively disband it)
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Re: Ye Gods 2 OOC (~12-36h to launch) [20/137]
« Reply #168 on: August 18, 2015, 05:33:41 pm »

Oh just chanelling a little of Mavnon's disdain for artifical cooperation~
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Re: Ye Gods 2 OOC (~12-36h to launch) [20/137]
« Reply #169 on: August 18, 2015, 05:36:43 pm »

I think the "established" players just liked using it for their own ends, and the newer players didn't get to experience how stupidly childish fun it was to punish Fusil because Stirk was being a nuisance OOC...

Also, KJP, is the 137 player cap just an arbitrary thing, or is there a reason for it?

Edit: Much happier about the multi-god discount though. Seemed a bit OP initially.
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Re: Ye Gods 2 OOC (~12-36h to launch) [20/137]
« Reply #170 on: August 18, 2015, 05:39:43 pm »

I just like 137 a lot and tend to doubt there'll be more than 30 players at any given time anyway
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Stirk

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Re: Ye Gods 2 OOC (~12-36h to launch) [20/137]
« Reply #171 on: August 18, 2015, 05:44:58 pm »

Whoops, now it is!

Now that you mention it, I do see a correlation between newer players tending to want to disband the Council and older players tending to want to keep it (or at least not actively disband it)

It may have something to do with how only old players really got anything from the Council. It was pretty dead near the end-game. Litany doesn't even have one, meaning newer players never used it.

I also like the discount system better. Nicely done with it!
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Re: Ye Gods 2 OOC (~12-36h to launch) [20/137]
« Reply #172 on: August 18, 2015, 05:51:38 pm »

At least the Don will be honest about being a mob boss...
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Re: Ye Gods 2 OOC (~12-36h to launch) [20/137]
« Reply #173 on: August 18, 2015, 05:57:43 pm »

At least the Don will be honest about being a mob boss...

You don't know that. I could always have him deny it  :P.
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Re: Ye Gods 2 OOC (~12-36h to launch) [20/137]
« Reply #174 on: August 18, 2015, 06:06:44 pm »

hector13 and Stirk: Hopefully this leads to multiple misguided attempts to unite all gods under one Pantheon to go on a creation binge :P

Number of stats poll results:
There should be...

One stat: HP/"money" stat (YG 0)    - 3 (18.8%)
Two stats: an HP stat and a "money" stat    - 4 (25%)
Two stats: a creation stat and a destruction stat    - 0 (0%)
Three stats: (resembles Litany's system)    - 9 (56.3%)
Three stats: a creation stat, a destruction stat, and a "money" stat for both creation and destruction    - 0 (0%)
Another stat system (in thread, send quickly)    - 0 (0%)
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Re: Ye Gods 2 OOC (~12-36h to launch) [20/137]
« Reply #175 on: August 18, 2015, 06:13:17 pm »

So why can't gods use magic in this game? In YG1 it was justified because if mortals could do god-like stuff without Essence, so could gods. How does magic work differently here that prevents a god from using magic?
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Re: Ye Gods 2 OOC (~12-36h to launch) [20/137]
« Reply #176 on: August 18, 2015, 06:14:45 pm »

So why can't gods use magic in this game? In YG1 it was justified because if mortals could do god-like stuff without Essence, so could gods. How does magic work differently here that prevents a god from using magic?

You can use it (And I knew you would try  ::)). It just isn't really useful to gods, especially with magic being weaker.
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Re: Ye Gods 2 OOC (~12-36h to launch) [20/137]
« Reply #177 on: August 18, 2015, 06:21:19 pm »

How isn't useful to gods, though? Is there some kind of buffer in place or is it just due to magic being inherently too weak for a god to do much with?
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Re: Ye Gods 2 OOC (~12-36h to launch) [20/137]
« Reply #178 on: August 18, 2015, 06:24:08 pm »

So why can't gods use magic in this game? In YG1 it was justified because if mortals could do god-like stuff without Essence, so could gods. How does magic work differently here that prevents a god from using magic?

Immagine this like this (and the comparisson might apeal to Stirk too).
You have a gun and a sword. The gun is a AK-47, reliable and usefull in most combat situations. But you only have so much ammo. The sword is kinda shit in a firefight, although you can ocasionaly cut people by ambushing them in coridoors. You are not going to run out of sword though.

Essence and magic. AK-47 and a sword. One is powerfull enough to make the other irrelevant, but can only be used so many times.
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Re: Ye Gods 2 OOC (~12-36h to launch) [20/137]
« Reply #179 on: August 18, 2015, 06:32:02 pm »

Uses of magic: Unlike in YG0, magic cannot be used to escape having to pay Essence (or whatever replaces it). Here, magic is largely (but not completely) relegated to use by mortals attempting to copy a tiny fraction of what gods can do...

I think that's the biggest reason for gods not using magic right now.

DG's analogy is spot on, though. Essence doesn't have limits (beyond being finite) like magic, which has rules and can only affect certain things. For example, Telepathy can only read someone's mind, not build a mountain or smite an entire civilisation.
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