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[Kashyyk]

What method would you suggest instead then? FPTP?

[Devastator]

What method would you suggest instead then? FPTP?

Well, yes.  You vote for what you think is the best proposal.  Multiple votes to arrange a list is okay, but I'm expecting another flamethrower to get in that way sooner or later.

[Sheb]

I think what he really wants is Devastator past the post. He picks the Best Choice, and that's it. 

[Kashyyk]

I'm against FPTP (possibly biased), due to the UK voting system.

My plan, once we started stagnating on ideas, was to eliminate all suggestions with one vote, and then have the rest as our shortlist.

[Devastator]

I'm against FPTP (possibly biased), due to the UK voting system.

Many, many people on the internet are.  The arguments against it don't really apply to elections of exactly one candidate, though.  If we did three or four revisions, I'd be in favor of it.  As we do exactly one, however.

I'd also be interested in seeing if you can recite the actual reasons in favor of (insert voting method here), or can just recite the usual arguments of 'It's more fair, or it's more represenative.'  Those only apply when certain unspoken additional assumptions are made.

[Sheb]

Splitting of the vote between similar project can cause a less popular one to win. Eg, a majority of players want a plane, but their vote are split between interceptor and fighter-bomber. That cause the project for dong-shaped grenade launcher to win.

[Kashyyk]

I'd say try me, but you'll never know if I can recite them or if i googled it. So, moot point.

Back on topic, we're supposed to be deciding what the best revision is, not the best way to decide how to decide what he best revision is.

Also, I agree with the filthy Arstotzkan.

[Devastator]

I'd say try me, but you'll never know if I can recite them or if i googled it. So, moot point.

Back on topic, we're supposed to be deciding what the best revision is, not the best way to decide how to decide what he best revision is.

Also, I agree with the filthy Arstotzkan.

Most of the time I would doubt it, but in this case in particular I'd be able to tell.  The actual arguments behind it lay out the series of assumptions made, which gives ground for applying them to this situation.  If you have a seriously good argument that does, the assumptions will stand up to a close examination.

The vote-splitting bit doesn't matter, as votes are public, and people can then change to the other design if they like the other more than the dong-shaped grenade launcher.  If they're never going to change in the face of an abjectly stupid design, I don't see why the stupid design wouldn't, or shouldn't, go through.

[Sheb]

Because people aren't online all the time, so they might not have the opportunity to change their vote. Why do you think FPTP is better?

[Kashyyk]

Anyway.

This is what the vote list looks like if we purge all the single votes, and I only vote for one thing.

Fix Camo - evilcherry, Kashyyk
Cheapen Tank - Devastator
Cheapen/Improve Radio - Taricus, Iituem

I'm actually ok with any of the three, but I think fixing our camo is the most important at the moment.

[TheLordofHouseRiley]

God I know I've been gone from this thread since sometime back in the 20's but Im gonna have to vote for fixing the camp if the enemy has effective snipers which they do our best counters going to be making it harder for them to spot and thus engage our troops.

[Devastator]

Because people aren't online all the time, so they might not have the opportunity to change their vote. Why do you think FPTP is better?

Because it doesn't take three days to vote on it, mostly, and it isn't handicapping the road to victory.  Poor designs have never had issues gaining popularity, and changing the vote system isn't likely to stop them from winning.

[evilcherry]

Because people aren't online all the time, so they might not have the opportunity to change their vote. Why do you think FPTP is better?

Because it doesn't take three days to vote on it, mostly, and it isn't handicapping the road to victory.  Poor designs have never had issues gaining popularity, and changing the vote system isn't likely to stop them from winning.

And I think IRV could defeat the bandwagon.

I believe a few people has an ego of me or nothing, and a more proportional system can only help defeating them

[Devastator]

I believe a few people has an ego of me or nothing, and a more proportional system can only help defeating them

You can name me, evilcherry.  As is I have one vote, and have pushed one design I liked through, the B2 destroyer.  Every other thing I have supported has been shot down vhemently, with the exception of the cheap SMG bandwagon.

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[Baffler]

Fix Camo - evilcherry, Kashyyk
Fix Hippo - evilcherry
Improvised PDW - evilcherry, Baffler
Cheapen Tank - Devastator, Kashyyk
Add Turbocharger to YellowJacket - UR, Baffler
Cheapen/Improve Radio - Taricus, Kashyyk, Iituem, Baffler
Cheapen Scopes - Taricus

I can really see a lot of ways we can go here. Do you have something specific in mind for the PDW?