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Author Topic: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1935 Production  (Read 98969 times)

evilcherry

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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1930 Production
« Reply #1440 on: August 16, 2015, 07:14:09 pm »

If the Mosquito have any chance of success the Wasp will be ruling the skies. Note note.

Also, there is an argument for light APC/IFVs. The enemy's using motorcycles while we are stuck with horses.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1930 Production
« Reply #1441 on: August 16, 2015, 07:57:57 pm »

what's stopping us from putting a flak turret on an airplane

just make it manueverable enough to not fly into the shrapnel
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1930 Production
« Reply #1442 on: August 16, 2015, 09:13:32 pm »

what's stopping us from putting a flak turret on an airplane

just make it manueverable enough to not fly into the shrapnel

Flak shells have to explode on a timer, or they'll put the cloud of debris that does the real damage in the wrong place and the enemy aircraft will just laugh at their impotence. Putting it on an airplane means that we'd either have to find some way to program the burst dynamically, or give them a very specific effective range. Part of the reason anti-air was so difficult in this period was the difficulty of loading shells that would explode at the right altitude, while still allowing them to actually hit anything. All we'd really be doing is putting this problem onto a different spatial axis. The other reason was that aircraft move really really fast and it was hard for a gunner on the ground to predict where they'd need to put a shell to do damage. A good future design for us might be a fire control system like the Kerrison Predictor or Rangekeeper. We'll also know for sure the enemy is spying if they deploy such a device in the next turn, hehe.

Though what we could do is give aircraft a sort of panic charge they can fire if they're being pursued, that produces a big burst of flak a few meters behind them. It'd only do damage to enemy fighters flying just behind them (or to bombers they're fast enough to overtake.) It'd be easy enough to avoid, but they'd be able to force enemy pilots to disengage to avoid the cloud and find another angle to attack.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1930 Production
« Reply #1443 on: August 16, 2015, 09:19:37 pm »

Is it worth doing research into basic computing?  Something capable of predicting artillery trajectories with accuracy would make a world of difference, for instance, as we could construct guns capable of completely out-ranging our opponents..
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1930 Production
« Reply #1444 on: August 16, 2015, 09:22:19 pm »

To be fair, we already have artillery capable of that.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1930 Production
« Reply #1445 on: August 16, 2015, 09:33:28 pm »

what's stopping us from putting a flak turret on an airplane

just make it manueverable enough to not fly into the shrapnel
What the flak you are referring to? Large Shrapnel shells detonating at a set attitude, or just concentrated 1.5-2 incher autocannon fire?

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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1930 Production
« Reply #1446 on: August 17, 2015, 03:56:04 am »

both

except replace set attitude with dual fuse, one on a timer and one on contact
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« Reply #1447 on: August 17, 2015, 05:00:18 am »

both

except replace set attitude with dual fuse, one on a timer and one on contact
Even the German 8,8cm are very accurate, they are not expected to score direct hits at planes, so contact fuzes (like percussion cap) for high attitude AA guns are pretty useless.

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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1931 Production
« Reply #1448 on: August 17, 2015, 05:34:37 am »

I think we need to make a cheap armored car and maybe revise a dedicated sniper variant of our rifle to take the ranged combat arena back.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1931 Production
« Reply #1449 on: August 17, 2015, 05:47:54 am »

I think our revision is now a given: Fix the officer's camo. This will put the sniper war on parity.

Design-wise, I think that the Infantry Assault Armour would be useful here, especially now the enemy has a better SMG than us.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1931 Production
« Reply #1450 on: August 17, 2015, 06:01:20 am »

Okay now we are talking about the cities. We have three ways to solve this:

1. More cheap mechanized infantry, and fix the camo.
2. Make battle armor and sneak improved camo, and build a Breaker variant as a heavy IFV.
3. We seemed to have a short-range arms problem as they get better SMGs.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1931 Production
« Reply #1451 on: August 17, 2015, 06:17:21 am »

Camouflaged battle armour? That shouldn't be too hard.

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« Reply #1452 on: August 17, 2015, 06:50:02 am »

Why Metal paint. Why just not fabric armor cover? The armor is not relying on ricochets anyway. Additionally, the fabric can be used as camo.

Also we can save the revise slot.

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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1931 Production
« Reply #1453 on: August 17, 2015, 06:52:56 am »

A fabric cover also works. And is probably better too.

Saving the revised slot was also my plan, as this should completely replace our current uniforms.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1931 Production
« Reply #1454 on: August 17, 2015, 07:07:00 am »

Hmm... Yellowjacket is even less useful than I expected. It gave us big nothing.

I think proposing something airforce related is pointless, right?
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