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[tryrar]

on open ground, APC support should help. That doesn't solve problems in the bunkers however.

the one thing that seems to work is their horsekiller, so we might want an anti materiel rifle. Or a rocket rifle.

I did just propose an anti-materiel rifle. Look on the last page

[andrea]

I know, I checked that same post for the spelling of materiel ( why are you so similar to material?) . I was just endorsing that line of thought.

anyway, considering the lack of mobility , that armor is a defensive weapon. It can stall us, but it won't be that useful while advancing.

[tryrar]

I know, I checked that same post for the spelling of materiel ( why are you so similar to material?) . I was just endorsing that line of thought.

anyway, considering the lack of mobility , that armor is a defensive weapon. It can stall us, but it won't be that useful while advancing.

True, unless it gets into close quaters(like with jungle and such) which can turn into a bit of an issue. Of course, we do have abundant RPGs for that...


Speaking of: All soldiers in the jungle are to engage Tiger-Armor wearing stormtroopers with RPGs loaded with our AT round, with covering fire provided by other squad members.

[andrea]

the anti tank round? wouldn't a simple high explosive be enough? concussive shock will kill just fine, we don't really need to pierce a fist sized hole in their chest.
Although that would be devastating to their propaganda and I am not sure what kind of warheads we have anyway.

Still, an HEAT round will have problems hitting a target as small as an infantryman

[Aseaheru]

We could make a caseless grenade launcher that is totally not a GP-34 designed to be attached to our totally not a AK-47...

And then use larger ones on EVERYTHING.

[tryrar]

We could make a caseless grenade launcher that is totally not a GP-34 designed to be attached to our totally not a AK-47...

And then use larger ones on EVERYTHING.

We might wanna go for more a M203 approach with a case, but I like this idea. In fact, I'm now regretting not adding a bottom rail to the gun

[Andres]

As an alternative to an AM rifle or a 1960s grenade launcher, we could try going for a 12.7mm HMG. They'd serve better than our 1910 and 1924 for vehicles and emplacements, plus it would be capable of piercing the enemy's body armour, assuming AP rounds are used.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[tryrar]

As an alternative to an AM rifle or a 1960s grenade launcher, we could try going for a 12.7mm HMG. They'd serve better than our 1910 and 1924 for vehicles and emplacements, plus it would be capable of piercing the enemy's body armour, assuming AP rounds are used.

Glory to Arstotzka.

Heh, I had the idea to get the AM rifle using a 12x100mm cartridge, then revise our 1910 to an HMG using said cartridge. I mean, there's plenty of AM rifles that use the .50 bmg the M2 uses, so why not the other way around?

[Funk]

As an alternative to an AM rifle or a 1960s grenade launcher, we could try going for a 12.7mm HMG. They'd serve better than our 1910 and 1924 for vehicles and emplacements, plus it would be capable of piercing the enemy's body armour, assuming AP rounds are used.

Glory to Arstotzka.

Heh, I had the idea to get the AM rifle using a 12x100mm cartridge, then revise our 1910 to an HMG using said cartridge. I mean, there's plenty of AM rifles that use the .50 bmg the M2 uses, so why not the other way around?

Lets go bigger 15 x 120mm over twice the power and greater range.

[tryrar]

As an alternative to an AM rifle or a 1960s grenade launcher, we could try going for a 12.7mm HMG. They'd serve better than our 1910 and 1924 for vehicles and emplacements, plus it would be capable of piercing the enemy's body armour, assuming AP rounds are used.

Glory to Arstotzka.

Heh, I had the idea to get the AM rifle using a 12x100mm cartridge, then revise our 1910 to an HMG using said cartridge. I mean, there's plenty of AM rifles that use the .50 bmg the M2 uses, so why not the other way around?

Lets go bigger 15 x 120mm over twice the power and greater range.

at that point we should just use our existing 20x100mm cartridge for an AM rifle. Keep in mind you have to cart the fuching thing around, so going with a smallish round means you can design something a soldier actually can carry.

Seriously Funk, all your ideas are things that are massively impractical and only suggested because they are "cool". Can you think your design through for once? For example, think on how big a rifle firing 15x120mm would need to be to handle the recoil forces even with a muzzle brake, and think how he'll have to transport the fucking thing.

[Funk]

Seriously Funk, all your ideas are things that are massively impractical and only suggested because they are "cool". Can you think your design through for once? For example, think on how big a rifle firing 15x120mm would need to be to handle the recoil forces even with a muzzle brake, and think how he'll have to transport the fucking thing.

I've given practical designs, the assault rife was me fluffing up with the ammo, i should of accounted for .357 magnum being based on back powder cartridge.
The pistol while on the large side was based of the full auto models Mauser C96.
The chemical warfare uniform is totally practical.
The War Emergency Power system is just a turbo waste lock and totally practical.
Most of the time i use a real design and change it a bit, like with this 15x 120mm round i've just stretched the Russian 14.5×114mm a little.
It would be just a little bit bigger than this or this.
Yes it will be big gun but i project around 25kg tops, and they can be broken down in to parts for transport if need be.
We could even make a machine gun in 15mm see KPV heavy machine gun

[Sheb]

I don't think we have to be afraid of weigh, things all seems to be lighter in Forenia, like our T-15 that could move at over 15 kph, or their RR who was a fifth of the weight of real-life model it was based on, or their armor which can stop full rifle AP cartridge and still let its wearer run.

[Kashyyk]

I was under the impression our armoured soldiers were limited to jogging, but I do see where you're coming from.

[andrea]

It is also explicitly described as tiring and constraining on movements.

[VoidSlayer]

We could make an updated shotgun with multiple rounds, more accuracy and a solid slug ammo type (or whatever type would penetrate armor more).