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[Andres]

The trucks can also be used to move our artillery around.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[Aseaheru]

A 50cal? What is that? It sounds like Imperialist weapon! We have glorious 7.62 and 20mm!

[Funk]

What about a glorious tracked vehicle to haul cargo like this

[Aseaheru]

Perhaps after we get some more resources moving and somemore breathing room, particularly in the jungle. Untill then, I think we need a scoutcar and a normal truck.

[Andres]

What about a glorious tracked vehicle to haul cargo like this

It looks too big to only use 2 Oil, to be honest. It also wouldn't do as well on roads, which it'll need to do if it's gonna get us our Oil.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[Funk]

Well lets build a tracked scout car then.

Spoiler: AS-PAS19 (click to show/hide)

Petrol, Armoured Scout  XX19

A half tracked scout car crewed by three men, commander driver and gunner.

It mounts a single gun (AS-AC18 or AS-1910 Mag) in armoured turret (25mm).
It has 20mm armor all around, slightly angled, with thicker 30mm plates around cabin and engine.
The entire thing is powered by a 3 litre Petrol 6 cylinder inline mounted in the front.
The suspension is Hydro-pneumatic.
Drive is only to the rear mounted tracks.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[Andres]

Well lets build a tracked scout car then.

Spoiler: AS-PAS19 (click to show/hide)

Petrol, Armoured Scout  XX19

A half tracked scout car crewed by three men, commander driver and gunner.

It mounts a single gun (AS-AC18 or AS-1910 Mag) in armoured turret (25mm).
It has 20mm armor all around, slightly angled, with thicker 30mm plates around cabin and engine.
The entire thing is powered by a 3 litre Petrol 6 cylinder inline mounted in the front.
The suspension is Hydro-pneumatic.
Drive is only to the rear mounted tracks.

Glory to Arstotzka.

A scout car is even less able to transport Oil. It's made worse because the thing you described isn't a scout car, it's a tank. WWI tanks had armour 13mm thick. 20mm is insane. The GM only said our tank was 20mm because he didn't know much about armour thickness. To rationalise why the enemies' bullet even had a chance to pierce the armour, he said it was 20mm of garbage metal. If we want to make a new tank, let's give it a normal thickness with normal metal.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[Funk]

I got carried away trying to make is horse killer proof, let just have 10mm then.

Spoiler: AS-PAS19 (click to show/hide)

Petrol, Armoured Scout  XX19

A half tracked scout car crewed by three men, commander driver and gunner.

It mounts a single gun (AS-AC18 or AS-1910 Mag) in armoured turret (25mm).
It has 10mm armor all around, slightly angled  to deflect shrapnel.
The entire thing is powered by a 3 litre Petrol 6 cylinder inline mounted in the front.
The suspension is Hydro-pneumatic.
Drive is only to the rear mounted tracks.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[Andres]

For our HV18 (the name I gave to our general purpose truck), the mountable armour and machine guns are second priority. Its use as a logistics tools comes first. Is everyone ok with this? If the plane is complex enough to become Very Expensive (unprecedented but possible) then it'll become a National Effort unless we get more Oil. We'll need the trucks to get us that Oil.

[Aseaheru]

I got carried away trying to make is horse killer proof, let just have 10mm then.

Spoiler: AS-PAS19 (click to show/hide)

Petrol, Armoured Scout  XX19

A half tracked scout car crewed by three men, commander driver and gunner.

It mounts a single gun (AS-AC18 or AS-1910 Mag) in armoured turret (25mm).
It has 10mm armor all around, slightly angled  to deflect shrapnel.
The entire thing is powered by a 3 litre Petrol 6 cylinder inline mounted in the front.
The suspension is Hydro-pneumatic.
Drive is only to the rear mounted tracks.

Glory to Arstotzka.

 So its my suggestion, with slightly more turret armor, a weaker gun, and tracked? Oh, and an extra dude.

[Aseaheru]

List of Proposals

Spoiler: T-18 Badger (click to show/hide)

The Badger is a 8.5 ton tank with a 80hp engine linked to a common transmission, which drives the two treads. It has 3 crew, is armored around 30mm frontally, 15-20mm on the sides and rear, 10mm top and bottom, and around 25mm on the turret. The turret is eletrically powered and carries one AC18-20 autocannon its ammo, a coaxial AS-1910 MG, as well as more reloads. The tank should try to reach speeds of 25km/h(faster on a road).

Spoiler: AS-LAC1/20-19 (click to show/hide)

 The LAC 1 is a light wheeled vehicle armed with a 20mm autocannon, and a crew of two. The first is the driver, who drives the four ton vehicle, and the second is the commander/gunner, who utilizes the 20mm cannon to chew through the opposition while the driver dodges return fire. For this purpose the vehicle possesses an electronically driven turret. The vehicle possesses minimal armor, only 10mm in all directions except the front, which carries an extra 5mm. The entire vehicle is propelled by a single six cylinder engine which drives a pair of wheels on each side, all designed to continue working after the wheel goes flat.

Spoiler: AS-MG18 (click to show/hide)

The AS-MG18 is a machine gun that uses the standard 7.76mm bullets. It's magazine-fed and can be carried and operated by one person. Reliability in the Jungle and portability are the top two priorities.

Spoiler: AS-A18 (click to show/hide)

The AS-A18 is a plane based on already exiting German designs. It has two seats, one for the pilot and the other for the gunner/spotter/bomber. It mounts a centreline AC18 using a synchronization gear so it can fire through the propeller.

Spoiler: AS-PAS19 (click to show/hide)

Petrol, Armoured Scout  XX19

A half tracked scout car crewed by three men, commander driver and gunner.

It mounts a single gun (AS-AC18 or AS-1910 Mag) in armoured turret (25mm).
It has 10mm armor all around, slightly angled  to deflect shrapnel.
The entire thing is powered by a 3 litre Petrol 6 cylinder inline mounted in the front.
The suspension is Hydro-pneumatic.
Drive is only to the rear mounted tracks.

Generic Truck Design

Spoiler: My two cents on all these (click to show/hide)

 T-18 "Badger". First of all, why are we giving things names now? That sounds like an imperialist thing to do. Second of all, 35mm is a fair wack of armor. Do we need that much? And what about fuel?
 LAC1. Fast, enough armor to deal with 30cals, enough punch to kill their tanks, small enough that it may only be expensive. The name is a bit long tho.
 AS-MG18. This seemslike bloating to me. We got the SMG for close in fire, the current MG seems good enough for what its needed for. The only place I can really see this used much is the mountains.
 AS-A18. Personally, I would rather wait on radios before we go into the air, save us a revision.
 AS-PAS19. As I already said, a more complex, less powerful than its competition the LAC1.

 Truck. Well, besides how generic our design is(or lack of design), this does seem useful. Goods transport and troop transport all in one.

[Andres]

This is the general purpose truck by tryrar and edited by me.

Spoiler: AS-HV18 (click to show/hide)

The HV18 is a general purpose truck for hauling anything that needs to be hauled. It can optionally mount a bed-mounted AC18 and/or a cab mounted AS-1910 Mag. When used in areas that can expect combat, can mount some light cab armor enough to stop fragments and small arms. It uses hydropneumatic suspension.

The above is the best case scenarios. Highest priority is as logistics. Second-highest priority is weapons and detachable armour. Last priority is hydropneumatic suspension.

EDIT: Hey tryrar, why don't we just give both the cab and the bed AC18s? Our 1910s can't pierce enemy armour and they're our biggest threats. I also switched the 1910 to a 1910 Mag since it requires less people to operate. You can't exactly fit a machine gun crew in a truck's cab, you see.

[andrea]

I agree on the truck.

As far as the other design goes, I am a bit torn.
of the possibilities so far proposed, I think the airplane is the most interesting.Cost shouldn't be a problem: their tank uses 2 oil, a biplane engine is not that much different in size. At most it is going to be 3 oil, pushing it to very expensive. For an airplane, that is a suitable number.

uh-uh. speaking about the jungle... would a defoliant be useful?



by the way, I find it amusing that they spent a design on a tank that right now is a national effort for them to build.

[VoidSlayer]

I am going to vote for the plane AS-A18 and Light truck AS-HV18.

If we get a radio portable enough for a plane a redesign won't be that big a cost, also we can add more redesigns to it, we will need to revamp the plane later anyway.

[Sensei]

by the way, I find it amusing that they spent a design on a tank that right now is a national effort for them to build.

Anyway: It looks like the vote is for a truck (primarily for logistics) and a biplane with an AC18. Correct?