Thanks to Flabort for his contribution. One small caveat: I don't think it's a problem to vote alongside other players if that's where your genuine convictions lie. Obviously don't blindly follow the crowd.
TawaDo you think Fallacy's wild play is alignment-indicative?
GraknorkeWould there be any reason to not pick the jailor? This isn't a snarky dismissive answer either, that seems like a bit of a non-question to me.
Ah that's interesting. My intuition would be to kill the cop as they can get definite inspects every night, whereas although it's disruptive, the jailor has to interpret their results. My honest response would be to work out who the cop is most likely to inspect and the jailor jail and based on those guesses try and work out who would do the most damage if left alive (which might depend on how competent the jailor and cop were etc.).
So, a question for Everyone, what experience have you had with (forum or otherwise) Mafia before now?
Myself, I've been in one BM before, 45. I feel that the experience taught me a lot about holes, digging, and when to stop. Also that 4mask is terrifyingly focused if he sets his sights on you.
Digging holes is a good thing to avoid. Self awareness and a willingness to calmly and clearly explain yourself will get you a long way in not getting yourself mislynched. I've probably played a few dozen mafia or mafia-like games. Been playing here at Bay12 for about two and half years now.
Urist McCoderyes this is my first game, and I am so excited to play. nqt why are you so eager to vote?
I like to vote right from the off. There are two main schools of thought on using the vote: some people use it to pressure people, others reserve it for when they're certain about who they want to definitely lynch that day. I am proponent of the first school. Why are you so eager to vote me for being eager to vote?
nqt you are seeming more and more scummy
This is pretty funny as I hadn't posted since you'd last responded, but to address your reasoning:
Then as you pointed out he asked tons of pointless questions. and in my opinion most importantly, he asked everyone except for Tawarochir a question. The only reason I can think of for him skipping Tawarochir, is if they are scumbudies.
Each of the questions had a point. I omitted Tawa on purpose to see who was paying attention.
if you are right about NQT and hiddenleafguy it would be a brilliant move on NQT part to immediately voted for hiddenleafguy. so that later on in the game he could reference that in his defense if someone said that he and hiddenleafguy are the scumteam.
Haha! Yeah scum teams often do this cute thing where they vote for one another on D1. Scum don't usually try and earnestly get their partners lynched on the first day though. When weighing up a vote-as-an-alibi, look for how likely it was that that vote was actually trying to get someone killed.
LWNot at all good sir nqt, not at all!
This is pretty much the only correct answer. Good job.
4mask... This isn't a competition, and that does nothing to help the game.
Hah, no I didn't mean in a competitive sense. I was curious what advice resonated most with him (which is game relevant).
Loud Whispers, were you disappointed with your role at all?
Say it with me, kids. ROLEFISHING!
Yes, there are two roles that seven of us are fishing for.
In this setup? Almost always bad. Are you trying to bait me into going on a pages-long rant?
I'm not trying to bait any rant out of you (as I'm not sure that would be alignment indicative). My experience in the championship has taught me that there can be big gains from town fake-claiming in a vanilla set-up like this.
I'll ask questions later, I'm busy.
I'll hold you to this.
FallacyofUristTake a deep breath.
On the other hand... He hasn't asked me a question either. Perhaps he's using his experience to frame Tawarochir and me as a scum team. Ouch.
In mafia we have a phrase we use for this kind of reasoning. It's called WIFOM, or Wine-In-Front-Of-Me.* It refers to a scene from
The Princess Bride where someone reasons fallaciously from insufficient premises. There are many reasons I might have omitted you and Tawa. The real reason is that I did it as a test. The ideal post induces an informative reaction. This is a form of scum hunting. I'm glad you noticed I didn't address you.
Aw dang. Oops, I did a scumtell(taking the third vote for a player). Blast.
Arguably it's a worse tell to show reticence to vote with your convictions and changing you behaviour overly to avoid conforming to standard tells.
Should I keep my vote on nqt or move it to hlg?
Why are you asking other players for permission here?
Okay, notquitethere, start talking before we lynch your head off. Notquitethere, please respond.
Hold your horses. It's only been
three hours since I last posted.
Okay everybody, NQT and hiddenleafguy are the scum team. Or at least I believe they are.
I can 100% assure you that you are wrong.
(Er... how can I put more pressure on NQT? The only things I can do to him are posting and voting, and more posts might serve the opposite purpose of what I intend. And my vote's already on him.)
I suggest when I've posted a bit more, looking to see if my future posts back up your theory and if they do then you should clearly explain how. That would put more pressure on.
You know what... I've realized that voting for hiddenleafguy may be the best way to put pressure on NQT. Let's call his bluff.
I'm so glad I joined this game, this is hilarious. I didn't even realise I was bluffing!
Yes, I... never mind. Hunting without dense amounts of evidence doesn't seem to be working. Unvote hiddenleafguy.
We can only go with what evidence we have available. At the end of the day town need to be sure they're voting the scummiest player.
Notquitethere: what do you think of the posting of me and Urist McCoder thus far?
You've been jumping around with incredibly wild theories. Scum tend to be a bit more reserved so weirdly it speaks well for you. I'll have a better idea as the day goes on. McCoder has been paying a bit of attention but their attack has been a bit weak. I've got no strong conclusions yet.
*edit: I see the others have covered this.