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[Peradon]

Roo: I've been doing a review, and I've noticed that you didn't actually reply to my RVS question. Take a minute and answer it.

Good luck with that. Roo never answer's anything you want him to answer.

This game seems to be going pretty slow...

[birdy51]

You know, they have these kits now - mustachio kits, where one may detach or attach a moustache whenever you like. You can have a curly moustache, or a pencil thin moustache, or one of those big thick ones with the handlebars on the side, whatever you want. You should have it as part of your stuff. I just want you to know that, HEY, if I get your stuff, I'm gonna do something very special with that there mustachi. You really think it needs to be detached?

But... That doesn't have to do with anything! You leave my mustasche alone!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

As a side note, thanks for that. That post cheered me up a bit. Outside stress and all that yak.

Good luck with that. Roo never answer's anything you want him to answer.

This game seems to be going pretty slow...

I'll hope he answers anyways. If not, I'll just have to develop what I think his word would be on my own.

And I agree on the game slowness, but there are ways of fixing that. Methinks we should start to get the lurkers to start talking a bit more. I'd rather notch off someone who's not posting Day 1 than to have to worry about them later.

[Jack A T]

This is getting nowhere fast.  Let's generate some information about the only major non-RVS and non-advice thing we've had so far.

Everyone: Thoughts on the Cheesecake affair (votes, actions, etc)?

[flabort]

Well, I guess I started it, so I may as well comment on that.
The votes... I'm not sure whether or not we should be voting him just yet. I think he should be jailed and investigated before we decide to vote him off, but I'm inclined to vote him off if a second reason to do so presents itself. It's only one scumslip, and he's been defending it somewhat OKish.
As for what has been done about the affair, I think perhaps it's time we changed the subject and asked some other questions to cheesecake. Yes, it may be true that his responses so far have been suspicious, but if we keep asking him the SAME questions ("Why did you respond this way?" being the most common) then we'll never get anywhere.
I think it's been fine for generating some interest in the game, but I also think we need more interest.

So, since I mentioned asking him another question, here's some more RVS questions:

Cheesecake: If you've been reading past Supernatural games, what is your favorite power role from them?

Birdy51: Who do you define as being a lurker right now? Do you think there is such a thing as day 1 lurking?

Spruce: What do you think of pinatas?

OragamiScienceGuy: Who out of everyone who has voted so far are you most suspicious of? Out of everyone who hasn't?

Teneb: I don't remember playing with you before. What is the primary aspect of your playstyle that sets you apart?

[birdy51]

Everyone: Thoughts on the Cheesecake affair (votes, actions, etc)?

It's suspicious. But, I find myself hesitant to push for a lynch on Cheesecake as it might just have been an innocent mistake. At the same time, his slip could have very well been a scumtell or that or he's a third party with references to Conversions in his abilities (ala, the Guardian Angel of one of the past games). If it comes down to it though... He wouldn't make a bad choice.

Birdy51: Who do you define as being a lurker right now? Do you think there is such a thing as day 1 lurking?

Inactivity in general defines a lurker, or a simple dissociating of oneself from the action of the Day phase. To the second question, absolutely. There isn't a whole lot to go off of on Day 1, but that can easily become a scum's excuse to work the edge of the crowd and remain unnoticed. Silence hurts the town. So, I say we have to get jiggy with it and make with the prods ourselves. Speaking of which...

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EPenguin: It's been a while. What gives my friend?

[TheDarkStar]

This is getting nowhere fast.  Let's generate some information about the only major non-RVS and non-advice thing we've had so far.

Everyone: Thoughts on the Cheesecake affair (votes, actions, etc)?

I get a "new" read from him more than anything else. I've seen new people act in almost identically to him. I'll probably have a good read for him later, but imo there isn't enough information about him yet.

The votes on him are a bit suspicious, though. He got a lot of votes quickly, so I'm inclined to think that some of those people joined the lynch train to appear town and to get an innocent person lynched.

[birdy51]

The votes on him are a bit suspicious, though. He got a lot of votes quickly, so I'm inclined to think that some of those people joined the lynch train to appear town and to get an innocent person lynched.

I disagree actually. I think that it is still early enough in the day that who will be lynched hasn't been decided yet. This Day does end on Monday and votes are malleable.

[Deus Asmoth]

I thought that cheesecake either misunderstood part of the setup or misread something. It seemed more like a new player than a scum tell.

In any case, I may not be thinking the most clearly at the moment, but spruce. His stuff seems likely to be an indicator of multiple powers to me, and multiple powers seems to be the realm of scum in this setup.

[TheDarkStar]

multiple powers seems to be the realm of scum in this setup.

Why do you say that?

[flabort]

Well, in Super 7 there was one scum with a lot of powers. In other Super games, there tend to be lots of powers spread out among the scum team; not as many per person, but the scum team can coordinate the powers.

I doubt the 'stuff' spruce refers to are powers, though. I'm pretty sure it's just his house, body, and other flavor oriented objects; you know, important only in a game where flavor is important, like this one.

[flabort]

EBWOP: EG, his house is left alone after he dies, his body goes to the graveyard (where the sexton watches over it) and his other stuff gets left in his house.

[TheDarkStar]

Teneb: I don't remember playing with you before. What is the primary aspect of your playstyle that sets you apart?

Teneb used to use the name Deathsword.

[Teneb]

Spruce, I compiled nearly all your posts into one big thing in the spoiler below.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Indeed! An ice-breaker question is in order.

All:

In a single word, describe what you believe what the most important aspect of Mafia is. Expound if you wish.

Strategery.

spruce: How did you find playing with NQT?

Jack: It was almost as if he wasn't even there.

spruce: What did you like about his playstyle in the championship?

Jack: It wasn't in some weird question and answer format. Is this how the entire game is played?

spruce: How do you expect this game to go?

DarkStar: Are you kidding me? The High Priest is like deaeded ded and they only found his head. There beeth rot amongst the Pillars, and there's murmuring and stuff. I just about peed my pants!

Spruce: How much impact will the power roles have on this game, and do you think that there will be enough discussion for everyone?

flabort:Dear flaybort of the flaming skull-hand-thingy,

dude, like there's like a flaming skull-hand-thingy and omens of ded ghostie things, mystic sorcery, werebears, unnamed monsters, and general n'er-do-wellednesses and mayhem. My eyes are like THIS BIG. Of course they're going to strongly impact the game. I'm gonna be over there under that rock as much as I dare. You go ahead and talk first and we'll see how it goes, 'k?

Thanks, Jack, flabort, and esp. Persus, that was very helpful. And DarkStar about the blue.

Spruce: What stage of your strategy are you in right now?

I said "Strategery", not, "strategy", if it really matters. It's a SNL reference regarding a Bush/Gore presidential debate parody from 2000 (season 26). You demanded, "In a single word, describe what you believe what the most important aspect of Mafia is." The form of the 'question' humourously reminded me of SNL and slogans those in every presidential debate, where there's a simplistic expectation to define a campaign with capsules like, "Hope", "Yes, America Can", "Country First", or "Ross for Boss".

In mafia it's indeed strategy, whether it's "mistrust", as cheesecake answered, "information", as Jack suggested, "discussion", proffered by flabort, "investigation", from Peradon, "voting", for DarkStar, "communication", from EPenguin, linky "Trustnoone", from ToonyMan, "Backstabbery", for OSG, "Winning", from Teneb, "Enjoyment", of Persus, or "play", as DA elucidated. Others gave similarly humourous responses of "magma", or "dying", but they're all defined by strategy - one's approach to the game. Those are all strategies. That's what's "most important", and from my reading everyone agrees. Mafia or werewolf or whatever is a game of strategy.

You said you meant it as an "ice-breaker", which I took as a sort of check-in question to foster discussion. Yeah, it's good to get things started, but I'm not sure you answered it yourself. You seemed to get most everyone's attention though.

As for "stage"es, I'm still trying to get used to the new place and what to me is a weird format. I'm used to faster 24/12 games in a casual conversational style where one isn't distracted by bells and whistles of particular formatting. I thought the game was gonna start a day earlier than it did and the first day last 72 hours, so I'm still trying to adjust to that change too, with other larger games I'm involved with elsewhere. That is, scheduling playtime is critical to how my participation unfolds. I'm also American East coast, if that matters. LOL, I still haven't figured out the 'lurker' thingy someone mentioned, or even how to iso player posts. I'm sure I'll figure it out, but it looks to be a long Day 1 (for me anyway), so I've been in no rush.

flabort: Who gets all our stuff when we Day 1 die? It's not that rat-bastard birdy, is it? And please tell me it isn't roo? 'Cause I would like to designate that DarkStar get all my stuff.

Spruce: Blargh! Now I am confused. What is this stuff you keep referring to Spruce?

All: If an older player of Supernatural wouldn't mind explaining, that would be nice. I feel a tad out of the loop here.

Chill out, dude. It's not like a coolio mustachi or anything. I'm not talking about game objects or such, it's just it's role-madness or mish-mash or whatevers, so each of us has stuff. Most games one's stuff is just lost when one dies, or one has to dig through old posts to find stuff that ought to have been left, but flabort says the Sexton gets the stuff. I'm just asking questions like everybody else, only my mind works kind of catty-corner from that of otherins.

Spruce: You're hurting me friend. Right here. In my heart.

Now then.

You keep bringing up that I haven't answered my own question, so let's just get that out of the way. My answer is this: Detachment. In my own past gameplay, one of the largest issues that I had was that I could easily start taking shit personally and that would effect my already relatively flawed logic. I already tend toward overthinking, and by detaching any personal bits out, it shortens the amount of time I spend faffing about ineffectively.

You know, they have these kits now - mustachio kits, where one may detach or attach a moustache whenever you like. You can have a curly moustache, or a pencil thin moustache, or one of those big thick ones with the handlebars on the side, whatever you want. You should have it as part of your stuff. I just want you to know that, HEY, if I get your stuff, I'm gonna do something very special with that there mustachi. You really think it needs to be detached?

That's a lot of posts. You know what is a recurring theme in those posts? No content. Just you dodging whatever question was thrown at you with a lot of verbose nonsense. No attempts at finding scum. It's as if you knew who the scum is and thus had no motivation to try and find them! I wonder why that could be.

Teneb: I don't remember playing with you before. What is the primary aspect of your playstyle that sets you apart?

I kept that quote in my sig so people could tell that I am Deathsword. Guess I should've made it more obvious.

[flabort]

Teneb: I don't remember playing with you before. What is the primary aspect of your playstyle that sets you apart?

Teneb used to use the name Deathsword.

OK, that makes sense. Yeah, I've definitely played with him, then.

Teneb: I don't remember playing with you before. What is the primary aspect of your playstyle that sets you apart?

I kept that quote in my sig so people could tell that I am Deathsword. Guess I should've made it more obvious.

Yeah, I saw and recognized the sig... I just didn't notice that the name was different, and when going through the list of names I saw one I didn't know. It didn't even occur to me that I didn't see "Deathsword" in that list.

[spruce]

flabort: Sure, I guess the “Rot” could be hiding in a piñata in the Town Hall? OSG did call it a party.

Teneb: Well, you get information your way and I'll get information my way. I just played 2 games at 2+ where they pretty much had the same response, but I Identified Scum quicker than anyone else and Town easily won both games. Yes, it is a slow game – slower even than I expected – the GM designed it that way, but you, birdy, and ToonyMan seem kind of eager to kill folk, if you ask me. Many of you know each other a lot better than I. Several of you are far more familiar with the site, the format, and previous games, so forgive me if I don't yet measure up to your standards of what is scum-hunting or content. I beg to differ. If you really thought that, you'd do do well to see that my claims are true. Looks to me like you're just struggling to make empty cases.