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[zacen299]

Because, if a Government spends less on stuff that increases people's standard of living, said standard will go down (because if there was any way to spend less money without lowering standards, it would've been imployed already). How much it goes down doesn't matter.

Also the "Hartz4 receivers should start working" argument doesn't work. The job market doesn't work that way.

How so? Unemployment benefits are a disincentive for people to start working period. Lowering those benefits, or applying them to only those with disabilities will increase the amount of employment. If your argument against that is that it will be too hard to find jobs, there is no shortage of jobs in Germany. Many people choose not to work in low end jobs, such as restaurants, because the unemployment is higher than their salary. That reminds me-

Germany- Foreign Affairs

Increase the requirements for immigrants of Muslim descent, and require a background check as well to help discourage terrorism. Crack down on illegal immigrants currently in the country, and enforce stricter policies for future aliens.

Huh. So you really are a conservative. Must resist urge to be a gigantic ass about that.

You know what, ignore everything I said.

On another note. Yeah Germany is a ridiculously liberal country to almost absurdity. I'm a...... sorta liberal? Hells I don't think there is a party where I live that fully matches my political views. But that's beside the point. Germany does give a shit load of money to a lot of people that don't really deserve it. Honestly I'm all for giving money to people who literally can't get any (and for the record even though I have a mostly liberal bias I still agree that unemployment in most countries is overkill.) but yeah Germany is famous for it's utter ridiculous amount you can make by doing next to nothing.



P.S. If this post seems rambly and illogical. Welcome to seeing my posts. They never make sense.

[misko27]

Iran does not meddle in the affairs of dragons.

Iran: Turn 2
Foreign Policy:
Sanctions, lift they must; else Oil we will not get. Ask to put current talks on a speeded-up schedule, act somewhat more conciliatory then usual.
Send message to the EU promising to support them with Oil if Russia refuses; of course assuming they lifted the sanctions against us.
Domestic Policy:
Crack down on Corruption, make examples of people.
Create new environmental rejuvenation plan for desert areas.

[darkpaladin109]

I'l join as Slovenia.At least a few of you propably don't know where that is.
Put Germany's offer on hold for now.
Increase the amount of money we spend on the military.

[Gamerlord]

Actually, the Aussies were just as feared as American troops in Vietnam. And even less so than others, such as the Seventh Cavalry, who earned the nickname "Devil Dogs". Although the environment in Australian breads survival, and strong, adept soldiers, that does not mean that they are better equipped, have better morale, or even better tactics than other countries. Australia has harasses, no doubt, but how much is up for debate. Just check out the Bundeswehr (read the bit near the end about their current operations and equipment.)


Also, I think we should use our country's "Hard numbers" for military. Here's the "Heer" or, army, of Germany currently. I plan on multiplying that by four.

Debatable check the casualties during Vietnam. Australia threw a large portion of their military into the fight (and left long after the Americans did.) And yet they have a tiny tiny amount of casualties in comparison. The problem was the Americans didn't know how to fight guerrilla warfare at all, and the Aussies really really do. If we keep it to Vietnam the main reason so many Americans died was because they tried to use the same strategies they always have. (You'd have thought they'd have learned during the island fighting of WWII but nooooooo) and it caused an absurd amount of casualties to number of troops over there. Also I seriously don't know what you're planning Whitius it looks like you're trying to turn Germany back into a military state despite that pretty much guaranteeing your entire country causing revolts, and your only arguments supporting this is that they need money. GERMANY IS THE FOURTH RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, and no small amount of that comes from how they run things including giving their people one of the highest standards of living in the world.


On another note Kj what may I can control cause I'm fine with anything.

I'm just over hauling the socialist aspects, not the economic. Germany is one of the richest countries in the world due to their manufacturing plants, and really I was turning it into a military state cause the game is entitled "World War 3 Simulator". I assume there will be war. A totalitarian gov. is more efficient during wartime than a democratic or republican one, hence why Rome used to elect Dictators. If we're just Roleplaying nations, however,mill rescind that.

What do you classify "absurd amount of casualties" as? Australia deployed only seven and a half thousand troops, and had relatively light casualties due to the fact that they only fought in two main battles. American casualties compared to Viet Cong was 1:20. Let that number sink in. And even then, I'm not comparing normal American Army, if it may seem that way, but the more elite, Airborne Cavalry, like the Seventh.

Sure, Aussies were more prepared for harsh environment. You failed to notice, however, that Australia isn't Jungle. They may be prepared for harsh environments, more so than the Americans, even, but not for Jungle Warfare. Also, they left in 1972. Before the Americans.

Yes, Australia isn't jungle. IT'S EVERYTHING. You want a jungle? We have that. You want a motherfucking brutal desert? We have that too. Savannah? Not precisely but close enough! Hell, the only environment we don't either have or have an equivalent of is Arctic/Antarctic.

[3man75]

Actually, the Aussies were just as feared as American troops in Vietnam. And even less so than others, such as the Seventh Cavalry, who earned the nickname "Devil Dogs". Although the environment in Australian breads survival, and strong, adept soldiers, that does not mean that they are better equipped, have better morale, or even better tactics than other countries. Australia has harasses, no doubt, but how much is up for debate. Just check out the Bundeswehr (read the bit near the end about their current operations and equipment.)


Also, I think we should use our country's "Hard numbers" for military. Here's the "Heer" or, army, of Germany currently. I plan on multiplying that by four.

Debatable check the casualties during Vietnam. Australia threw a large portion of their military into the fight (and left long after the Americans did.) And yet they have a tiny tiny amount of casualties in comparison. The problem was the Americans didn't know how to fight guerrilla warfare at all, and the Aussies really really do. If we keep it to Vietnam the main reason so many Americans died was because they tried to use the same strategies they always have. (You'd have thought they'd have learned during the island fighting of WWII but nooooooo) and it caused an absurd amount of casualties to number of troops over there. Also I seriously don't know what you're planning Whitius it looks like you're trying to turn Germany back into a military state despite that pretty much guaranteeing your entire country causing revolts, and your only arguments supporting this is that they need money. GERMANY IS THE FOURTH RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, and no small amount of that comes from how they run things including giving their people one of the highest standards of living in the world.


On another note Kj what may I can control cause I'm fine with anything.

I'm just over hauling the socialist aspects, not the economic. Germany is one of the richest countries in the world due to their manufacturing plants, and really I was turning it into a military state cause the game is entitled "World War 3 Simulator". I assume there will be war. A totalitarian gov. is more efficient during wartime than a democratic or republican one, hence why Rome used to elect Dictators. If we're just Roleplaying nations, however,mill rescind that.

What do you classify "absurd amount of casualties" as? Australia deployed only seven and a half thousand troops, and had relatively light casualties due to the fact that they only fought in two main battles. American casualties compared to Viet Cong was 1:20. Let that number sink in. And even then, I'm not comparing normal American Army, if it may seem that way, but the more elite, Airborne Cavalry, like the Seventh.

Sure, Aussies were more prepared for harsh environment. You failed to notice, however, that Australia isn't Jungle. They may be prepared for harsh environments, more so than the Americans, even, but not for Jungle Warfare. Also, they left in 1972. Before the Americans.

Yes, Australia isn't jungle. IT'S EVERYTHING. You want a jungle? We have that. You want a motherfucking brutal desert? We have that too. Savannah? Not precisely but close enough! Hell, the only environment we don't either have or have an equivalent of is Arctic/Antarctic.

So no frozen wasteland? awwwwwwwwww

American soldiers are going to be pissed at the fact that they cannot make a snowmen in australia! 

[Sheb]

I was turning it into a military state cause the game is entitled "World War 3 Simulator". I assume there will be war. A totalitarian gov. is more efficient during wartime than a democratic or republican one, hence why Rome used to elect Dictators. If we're just Roleplaying nations, however,mill rescind that.

Actually it was named "WW3 Simulator or not". Frankly, you guys controls all the big countries, whether or not there is a world war is not up to me.

I'm going to update this afternoon, I just wanted to be more precise about how I update. Generally, afte reading everything, I try to run different scenarios for how an action could turn out in my head, then roll a D100 to decide which way it'll go. For example, Israel's border patrols could go from a few mid-level Hamas people being killed and a drop in border friction from people not daring to go next to the border to trigger-happy soldiers killing a bunch of children throwing stones, causing unrest in Palestine and international condemnations.

That's where the arguing come in: it change what I consider likely as a result for an action.

Oh, and I'll keep my bias in check, so don't expect me to rule if wild capitalism or glorious socialism is the best way to grow an economy. All your economies probably will be wrecked by the international sanctions, break-up of groups like the EU and huge military spending everywhere.

P.S. Last but not least: If your government is overthrown or conquered, you loose. No coming back as same nation, the nation become a NPC or can be grab by someone else. (You can play as government in exile and maybe someone will put you back in though).

[smurfingtonthethird]

Can we steal all of the cheese?

That would be a good thing to do.

[WhitiusOpus]

I was turning it into a military state cause the game is entitled "World War 3 Simulator". I assume there will be war. A totalitarian gov. is more efficient during wartime than a democratic or republican one, hence why Rome used to elect Dictators. If we're just Roleplaying nations, however,mill rescind that.

Actually it was named "WW3 Simulator or not". Frankly, you guys controls all the big countries, whether or not there is a world war is not up to me.

I'm going to update this afternoon, I just wanted to be more precise about how I update. Generally, afte reading everything, I try to run different scenarios for how an action could turn out in my head, then roll a D100 to decide which way it'll go. For example, Israel's border patrols could go from a few mid-level Hamas people being killed and a drop in border friction from people not daring to go next to the border to trigger-happy soldiers killing a bunch of children throwing stones, causing unrest in Palestine and international condemnations.

That's where the arguing come in: it change what I consider likely as a result for an action.

Oh, and I'll keep my bias in check, so don't expect me to rule if wild capitalism or glorious socialism is the best way to grow an economy. All your economies probably will be wrecked by the international sanctions, break-up of groups like the EU and huge military spending everywhere.

P.S. Last but not least: If your government is overthrown or conquered, you loose. No coming back as same nation, the nation become a NPC or can be grab by someone else. (You can play as government in exile and maybe someone will put you back in though).

Well fuck. I need to redact some shit before the next turn then.

[Harry Baldman]

Or D, by lowering government spending and/or transferring from socialist programs will provide the funds for a larger military.

Trouble is, welfare programs are well-liked by a lot of people. Be prepared for people to be rather pissed is all I'm saying.

And in reality, for the GDP of Germany, it's really only spending about 4% of its budget on its entire armed forces. Going to 16% won't be much of a change.

Yeah, that's pretty much fools' math right there. 12% of a country's national budget is, under any circumstances, a whole lot of money. You can't just stroll into Liberalsville, Germany and take away 12% of their money (at least some of which they are spending on things they and, naturally, a significant amount of voters, consider rather important, like healthcare and education, the big eaters of government spending) without repercussions. Unemployment benefits (the existence and effectiveness of which is an issue I will not touch) aren't 12% of your budget, man. And most of the categories that people spend on, they have to spend on or risk trouble.

Also, totalitarian governments are a great many things, but they are never efficient to any degree. Authoritarian rule might work a bit better, but totalitarianism is going to just plain screw everything to hell, considering how much corruption it invites into the mix.

[WhitiusOpus]

Or D, by lowering government spending and/or transferring from socialist programs will provide the funds for a larger military.

Trouble is, welfare programs are well-liked by a lot of people. Be prepared for people to be rather pissed is all I'm saying.

And in reality, for the GDP of Germany, it's really only spending about 4% of its budget on its entire armed forces. Going to 16% won't be much of a change.

Yeah, that's pretty much fools' math right there. 12% of a country's national budget is, under any circumstances, a whole lot of money. You can't just stroll into Liberalsville, Germany and take away 12% of their money (at least some of which they are spending on things they and, naturally, a significant amount of voters, consider rather important, like healthcare and education, the big eaters of government spending) without repercussions. Unemployment benefits (the existence and effectiveness of which is an issue I will not touch) aren't 12% of your budget, man. And most of the categories that people spend on, they have to spend on or risk trouble.

Also, totalitarian governments are a great many things, but they are never efficient to any degree. Authoritarian rule might work a bit better, but totalitarianism is going to just plain screw everything to hell, considering how much corruption it invites into the mix.

Yeah, sorry about that, in reality they only spend roughly 1.3% (currently). I did my math wrong .

Anyway, true, totalitarian governments are bad, at least in the long run. Did more research into it, and also was told previously that this May or may not be WWIII, depending on how we run it. Also, authoritarian would be good, but again, not good for the long run, since it foments dissent unless you have a powerful leader. Anywho, review my changes or maybe I should repost them....

[WhitiusOpus]

foreign affairs
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Offer the Ukrainian's Asylum, and try to raise awareness to the UN, the EU, and NATO, about the crisis in Ukraine.

Continue to promote the EC, and put to the fact that the EU is primarily a economic plan, whereas the EC would be a more effective UN, essentially, and only temporary due to the Russian threat.

internal affairs/infrastructure
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Begin a massive propaganda campaign, basing the increase in militarism on the current threat posed by Russia. Compare Putin with Stalin, and Russia with the Soviet's of old.
Begin string of in-depth defensive fortifications along the eastern border. Increase the incentive to join the army, and boost volunteer rates, as well as propaganda for the Bundeswehr as well. Begin production of Deutschland Engineering! tanks in the new factories. Mobilize the Bundeswehr and Luftwaffe, and call for a national emergency. Allow other EU nations to move through Germany's borders to reach the battle grounds in the Ukraine.
Begin a program to expand the Heer by double over next five years.

Admit the fallacies of trying such radical reforms in the current economic and political structure. Reinstate previously taken away social benefits and elections, but put Günther Lütjens in charge of the FMD (Federal Ministry of Defense), as he is a capable general. Placate rioters, but continue to propagate military growth at a more reduced rate.

Increase military funding from the current 1.3 percent of the GDP to 3 percent. Do this by slightly increasing the taxes on the automotive industry, and increasing tariffs on imported vehicles to stimulate internal growth.

Also, apologize profusely and return the BMW plants back to their producers.


Research
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Spoiler: classified (click to show/hide)

Begin research into a high powered magnetic coil gun mounted on train tracks. For now. Call it the Spulenpistole.

Here's my fixes and mop-ups.

[3man75]

Humanity simply needs new enemies to ally agaisnt. ill give a few.

-space aleins
-not colonizing
-making sure our planet has re-usable resources
-being HAPPY
-killing anyone who dosne't agree

[WhitiusOpus]

So we should ally against being happy?

[Yourmaster]

drop nuclear weapons on Australia FOR AMERICA

[3man75]

So we should ally against being happy?

happiness = humans consuming resources that are better and not re-usable thus hurting the environment.

questions?