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[Eric Blank]

this just in: evicted from the server during pirate station attack. My bomber is vulnerable, with all my sweet loot in it. it's at 23,-26, 60. there was a hell of a lot of loot floating near the bow, and pirate fighters nearby. If someone can warp in and bump it to safety, maybe take out the station/pirates, that would be awesome. Collect the loot if you find it; it's probably worth a lot.

However, I have a new strategy for looting pirates! When the server doesn't drop you!

Here we go:

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basically, you build a perma-stealth craft of any sort, and put the warhead at least 15m away from any other block of the ship (it has a 10m blast radius, but it's always safest to have a buffer zone!) Put the camera behind it, so that when you switch to the camera, you're getting a view directly in line with the warhead. Then, while cloaked, you guide the warhead into the target. When the warhead detonates, it will deal 50k damage, which will destroy fighters. You can then collect the loot, because your cloak doesnt disable during the explosion like it would if youd fired a weapon. You can then manually replace the warhead and camera in build mode. At the shop I stopped at, warheads were 38 credits, and cameras ~280

However, to coax a station into spawning fighters for you, you have to shoot it a few times. That, and the server being a whiny, laggy bitch and disconnecting you, are the most dangerous parts.

Also this thread:

http://starmadedock.net/threads/tips-tricks-ideas-and-r-d.7907/
I totally stole his idea

[Shadowlord]

Whoa, when did it get upgraded to do 50k damage? Is that in vanilla? Why didn't I see it in the blockbehaviorconfig? 

[Eric Blank]

I have no idea whether that guy is working on vanilla or some servers' config, but it worked on that one pirate I killed on EE just a bit ago (8k or something shields). I can't parse the bloody config files myself, so I can't find the warhead's behavior...

[LoSboccacc]

this just in: evicted from the server during pirate station attack. My bomber is vulnerable, with all my sweet loot in it. it's at 23,-26, 60.

server is restarting. I'll be playing this evening, I can taxxi you there if you plan to be online.

Spoiler: linebackeeeeeeeeeeeeeer (click to show/hide)

Did you get nuked during server lag spike?

no I just got pinched by a linebacker and a hellhound, shield recharge wasn't enough for both of them.

woah. that is a big hole.

edit: by the way, I am building a ship, but I am still unsure on the weapons. What do you suggest?

well, currently missile are the dps king. missile missile if you play solo are good at swatting those pirate fighters, but you'll need a bigger missile+pulse combo for taking out capitals.

I'm experimenting with cannon... stripping shields it's actually easy; getting damage to the core so so. I'm having success both with big cheesy cannon of mincemeating arrays - cannon+cannon (50%)+explosive(100%), tuned so that each cannon of the array does 1000dmg/projectile - and stupid big cannon+cannon (50%)+punch trough (100%)

I do cannon cannon because it helps aiming. cannon+pulse has actually a bigger dps per block, but the 8 second shot rate of fire is boooooring

[Eric Blank]

this just in: evicted from the server during pirate station attack. My bomber is vulnerable, with all my sweet loot in it. it's at 23,-26, 60.

server is restarting. I'll be playing this evening, I can taxxi you there if you plan to be online.

Actually, what would be awesome is if you could go there, cloaked or not, and just verify whether or not the pirate fighters are still in the vicinity. If they aren't, I should still be out of range of the station's guns, so hopefully I don't get killed. I think the station guns on the Eta pirate station are only basic cannons, so it would be as simple as knowing the default range of basic cannons and how far away my ship is from the station (I dont think I was moving at the time)

[Crashmaster]

...it's at 23,-26, 60...

Your stealth ship and an overheating strike fighter wreck were in the area 4020-4060km from the pirate station. No fighters. Recovered remaining space loot, brought both ships back and docked them to home base. Accidentally hit Zanzetkuken's ship with the warhead sticking way out there while trying to dock but it's home based 8D Dock your dang ships everybody!

[Eric Blank]

Can't dock a ship when the server won't let you log back in

Thanks, though. Glad to hear there was even still loot around.

[Crashmaster]

No prob, it was much-needed content.
I understood your ship's situation for being adrift, I was referring to the ships floating un-secured and vulnerable around home base while I was weaving your ship around and through them looking for a dock without knowing what that one peculiar, red-ish, warheady-looking block out front was until accidentally and inevitably knocking it into something.

[LoSboccacc]

speaking of which, I'm using this pattern now for docking, and it could be nice if we standardize on this so that rescuing operations are easier... and classier

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note that punch trough on elwyn goes up to 1, so when effect is 100% projectiles just pass trough the enemy ships.. without leaving any damage behind

found it hard while fighting a couple linebacker and a hellhound, luckily this time I got some backup from my brother silly battleship

[andrea]

I suppose I am guilty of the undocked ships. I really need to take a look at docking, so I can properly secure my ship ( and perhaps get a shuttle)

[Eric Blank]

Yeah, the USD type-1 design should work in most cases.

I so wish I could play properly, but the laptop I borrowed and the server just don't get along, it seems.

The warhead bomber thing totally works, though. There's no cure for lag and crappy servers, but now there is a cure for pirate fighters and lack of loot.

[LoSboccacc]

well as I expected Edo messed up with one of the old and powerful server factions, and now we're fugitive XD

[Eric Blank]

I was messing with the dev build, and it looks like the hit point/armor system is coming up next version. Its not looking real great right now; each individual block is just as fragile, so it doesn't take any more effort to drill into someone's core. However, after destroying the core (damaging it to 0 HP), you must continue on to destroy the rest of the ship, to eliminate some greater portion of it, before the target overheats. Missiles will be even more important, since eliminating blocks is the name of the game, and cannons/beams will be even more useless. Way to go, devs.

[LoSboccacc]

Missiles will be even more important, since eliminating blocks is the name of the game, and cannons/beams will be even more useless. Way to go, devs.

that sounds very bad, but I guess good server admins will just nerf missile damage/block and explosion range, or increase shield and other weapons dps, and people will migrate

edit:
are turret shenanigans fixed? that's what annoy me the most. missile have always be very strong, but anti missile turret were also really effective previously.

[Shadowlord]

Wait, wouldn't being able to make turrets to shoot down missiles be a good thing, if missiles are so much better than the other weapons? Missiles being dominant, you'd want them to have an effective counter.