Moody day >__>
zuOh heck no, I do care muchly about killing witches, only that I've other conditions at hand.
On the second question: Yes, however I feel that the information I have at the moment is vague and superficial (meaning yes they exist, and that is all.) and I need to wait on further days to check on that matter.
On the third: I guess so. Town-aligned is my best bet if I am, and if I'm not, then I'm pretty much town given how:
a. I hate witchcraft.
b. That other thing which-I-said-I'm-confused-about.
Why do you ask, ZU?
The bolded portion doesn't make me feel any safer. I'm asking because finding and eliminating third party is necessary. Tiruin.
"Eliminating."
"Necessary."
Expound. Explain why this takes precedence over scum, and explain your take on third-parties in general, and in specific situations as I see the latter term applies to your passive-aggression here.
Why should I put something up as a defense to make you feel safer, hypothetically? I'm explaining myself there, and any interpretation of my words can be done.
But safer? Why would you be so easily calmed by such?
ToasterThat leaves either Town or Third-Party.
Explain why you concluded the latter. Explain why that needs to hang.
What, you don't think third party should hang? Wonder why that is.
Nice evasion mister.
A third-party can comprise anything from benevolent to neutral to malevolent. Is it explicitly needed to be hung?
I want reasons, not roundabout questions and implied answers, Witch.
Let me ask you this hypothetical: Is a third-party a definite evil to the town?
Toonyman, Tiruin, if your goal isn't to find witches then what it is it? We've all been speaking as if there were town, scum and then 3rd parties, but a cursory glance at the list of previous roles proves the lie in this: there are town aligned roles that might have slightly different goals (Villager, Vigilante, Inquisitor, Miller), and anti-town roles such as Witches and unknown malicious third-parties (probably something like elves or wizards, but a wee bit different).
Well, while my motivation is benevolent, it isn't in directly culling the witches from this town (...I'm implying it is such though, given my flavor context) but..err, this is where I'm confused.
> It wasn't mentioned that witches should be culled, BUT, they are a threat to my goal is as far as I can say. The confusion goes along that path as well as future implications.
So I'm not claiming my goal yet because..it's quite hard to explain, and will give those who threaten it an advantage if I did, regardless on whether I had an explanation or not. Why also on the confused portion? It deviates from common knowledge/concept on how it works. I won't banter on the matter though.
Oh, it's because YOU are third party, and don't want the witch hunt (pun intended) to extend to you. So, Tiruin, I am calling you out. Are you third party? (So you say it cleanly for the record.) What kind? What is your goal? Why shouldn't you be lynched? Why should we believe anything you say?
:O Oh noes! The horrendous twisting of my words hurt. I snark at you for the insult.
No, I don't care if the witch hunt is extended to me. You can persecute me all you want, for good reason, however I do note that you do it with suspicious fervor there that you conclude an extreme before doing anything else.
Who has to fear the general third-party? Witches.
Tiruin pouts, then shakes her head at the incompetency.You know what? Yeah. I'm third-party; a third-party who shares the same goal as the town, theoretically [well, ok, in theory:
No killing roles.], and who wishes to remove all threats to my said wincondition. The witch part? I infer that they've got a NK.
You don't need to draw all the points and 'call me out', to emphasize it for bonus points. Yet I shall not adhere to your blatant rolefishing.
But for posterity's sake, I'm definitely sure that there are 2 other third-party alignments. This, I withhold until I can further my information. No, saying it out won't help as I see it, as it's a generalist information I've gotten.
Why shouldn't I be lynched? Do you want me to give reasons on that extremist point? It's all up to you, and/or everyone else to decide on that point and ascertain whether or not the target must be lynched under grounds of logic and communication. That sort of question is quite..I can't find the word for it. Strange? Out of place? It's like you're taking the role of a judge on that part and as if you've got power over me.
As for believing anything I say--that's relative. As well as believing everything everyone else says. *handwaves argument* You want to stereotype? Go do so. Whatever consequence of that will be attributed to ignorance.
I mean, heck. Sure, we can attribute third-party to the neutral jerk who picks sides and doesn't care about stuff, or wishes to kill people for the heck of it, but...that's really shocking seeing your extremism there. And it being shared by ZU given his point of view on it.
How do you view a third-party? Why should they be hanged in lieu of unclaimed scummy people? Should they be hanged if they
are third-party, and nothing else?
Somehow, I feel like you don't care about finding witches yourself and are using an assertive stance to shade it as you attack others.
Vector: Tiruin appears to be claiming third party. What is your reaction to this?
Running up to Vector and asking for backup, I presume? Why Vector of all people?
Lastly, what your remark to NQT is, is my point on you.
Okay, I'll grant you this one. You said "I'm not a witch" within the context of your previous claim of not being third party, when I read it separately. Consider my complaint on that post dropped. [...]
A very nice startup until you found something actually suspicious about him. The bolded portion contradicts whatever you posted towards me, however, as
only now after I shown you the error, you backtrack.
Coward.
LeafsnailIf anyone other than Ottofar tries to answer or strike down any of those questions I will treat them as a mafia member.
...Why would anyone other than Ottofar answer that when it's addressed to Ottofar?
NQTNQTThey might still be pro-town, but I know from experience that Tiruin is adept at misrepresenting the aims of a 3rd party role
...I think you quotemined. Also, this came off as an insult due to the prefix 'mis-' >_>
That hurt me.
Oh! I think there's a misunderstanding here. I was referring to how in Toon mafia you skillfully misrepresented your 3rd party role as benign when it was in fact very malign. It was a compliment, not an insult
MISREPRESENTED?! :I
Ugh. Alright, let me give the context there. I was a SK- I couldn't kill until I ritual'd for 2 days. Wherein I can't move from house.
Post-ritual, I could kill, and move at the same night. It was only malign if all objectives were completed (which they were
)...So no. Not a misunderstanding. I read my role 3 times over.
And I was serious when I said I didn't want to kill you all. Just..eat a few. See?
Well, while my motivation is benevolent, it isn't in directly culling the witches from this town (...I'm implying it is such though, given my flavor context) but..err, this is where I'm confused.
> It wasn't mentioned that witches should be culled, BUT, they are a threat to my goal is as far as I can say. The confusion goes along that path as well as future implications.
So I'm not claiming my goal yet because..it's quite hard to explain, and will give those who threaten it an advantage if I did, regardless on whether I had an explanation or not. Why also on the confused portion? It deviates from common knowledge/concept on how it works.
I can understand that there's probably a broad range of pro-town goals and I can also understand that explaining your win condition could harm your chances of winning. I'm still not convinced what a pro-town role would look like if it isn't concerned with lynching witches.
Also could you rephrase the italicised portion as I have no idea what you meant.
..It is concerned, just that it isn't written in the wincon. >_> Look, while I did say 'it isn't in directly culling the witches from this town' I was referring to the wincon-my character doesn't prioritize those things, but sees a larger, greater threat on the horizon.
Something greater than witches.
On the italicized portion? If I were to claim my wincon and who I am right now, it'd draw a hell lot of speculation, suspicion (because it seems many players are going along their safety blanket and all), give those who I'm against a huge advantage, and confuse townies even more. Confuse by the idea that it's..really weird in a sense.
However, warning ahead, paranoia isn't a good thing to follow. Take this as you will, I'm operating on limited time IRL, posting from thought and memory.
Also, where are the answers to my query NQT?
Next, could you in the least explain why you're after lynching those who contributed least as opposed to any other suspicious act? Somewhere going along the lines of scummy, for one?
Why are you going after the least contributor anyway? It appears to me that you're only voting him to save your skin.
The query was about Ottofar who is the player I'm going after, so:
-snip-
Well he responded to ToonyMan, how do you take that?
Things are settling down for me now--the real question is whether I want to sell my soul to the Mafia gods.
Oh hey, you!
Welcome back! Hope you're doing fine there.