EBWOP: I don't know what happened with that post. Here's what I meant to say:
Lenglon:Welp, that was easy. Borno is scum. I'll present the lynch case later tonight when I have my notes with me.
Borno: Thank you for your cooperation.
Hmm. I'll admit that I don't look like the most towniest player right here, but before all you were voting me for was my lurking, which has stopped. What happened to your case on deathsword? Did it magically disappear because he claimed doctor? Or is it because he's an IC and I'm not? Maybe both?
Scratch that, RL is getting in the way. The short version:
Lurking, weak cases, acting almost purely for defense, Rangercaddo voted for deathsword at the end of day 2, every NK has been for the most active player of the most recent day, including last night (shinigami is only alive because of deathsword), being too nice to me, and process of elimination, deathsword's reaction to me throwing every accusation i could think of at him (which is normally a scumtell btw, and i think it's why he wasn't sure what to make of me) was a perfectly town reaction. borno however all of day 4 was basically doing exactly what i wanted him too, and nothing more. meaning he was acting purely out of defensive instinct and not actually scumhunting.
Let me tell you why you're wrong.
Lurking: Yes. I've been lurking, and I've told you why. It's my first time being a power-role as town, and I don't think I'm really accustomed to having the ability to save a player's life in my hands.
Weak cases: Bullshit. When have I made weak cases on anyone outside of RVS? If you're looking for weak cases, please direct your attention to our resident scum, Deathsword.
Acting almost purely for defense: Also Bullshit. While I haven't had the time to make a huge and complicated post, I have most certainly not been acting completely out of defence.
RangerCado voting for deathsword: ... Wow. We had a whole discussion on this D1, did you not read it? It seems Griffionday was right when he said although some scum may try to avoid attacking other scum-members, it's useful to read into their case anyway. Also there's a high possibility that he knew that he was doomed and decided he wanted to distance himself from his scumpartner by attacking him. It seems a little odd that he only attacked him at the end when it was assured he was going to die, isn't it?
NKs: I don't understand what you mean by this. Are you saying I'm mafia because every NK has been for active players? I don't really understand.
Being too nice to you: Hang on, what? How the hell have I been nice to you? If you mean by not attacking you, it's because I didn't think you were scum, and now I know that you aren't scum. However, if you don't want me to be nice to you, I'll be happy to oblige.
Deathsword's reaction: So you're saying he's town because he was nice to you, but I'm scum because of the very same reasons? The stupidity meter is going off the charts right now.
... And now you're saying I'm scum for doing what you want me to do? And then you say I don't scumhunt? Is this saying that you don't want me to scumhunt?
But all emoticons aside, I think that your case is incredibly biased. I don't understand how you went straight from a vote for someone to saying that they're town outside RVS.
Shinigami_King:- This is important! I know there are some flaws but if we keep the lynch tied then no one will die. Then we just ask borno to be my doctor and deathsword to be Lenglon's doctor. If anyone dies, their doctor is the scum. If the opposing doctor dies then I guess we know who the scum is. Like I said, I know there are some major flaws with this but I want to hear all opinions.
That would probably be a good idea, were the mafia in question not an IC. As such he'd probably know to no-kill and we'll be back where we started, on MYLO.
I want everyone to re-read pages 11-12-13. There are a few things that I feel necessary to point out.
When I was making my case against swordswith one of the things I was looking for was ranger having a quarrel with his scum buddy to divert suspicion. Well if you take a look, deathsword was also on the list of back and forth attacks. as seen here
A quote from rangerOkay, lets do this thing.
Okami + SwordSmith: I'm going to continue to investigate Borno and see if i can find anyone else scummy.
Okami: I complained about IGs death because i thought Spectr and Deaths votes were from RVS and were left there because they hadn't had time to post. And i agreed with Griffs points but that doesn't mean i was taking cues from him. He left off on Borno but i decided (no matter how weak it may have been) to stay on him.
SwordSmith: What are your thoughts on being the deciding vote on IG and him showing up Town?
Spectr + The Swords: What are your thoughts on IG showing up town? Do you think he made any good points before his death?
Spectr + Death: Why didn't you change your votes on IG when we left RVS? Specifically Death who had a chance to change it as he did post before the cutoff.
Borno + Spectr: Where are you guys?
Nerjin: You've posted twice since Griffs NK. The first was saying people should get back to the game and the second talking with the Mod. What are your thoughts on Griffs NK and do you have a suspect?
My reads so far:
Okami: Neutral leaning town- Hasn't done anything that i could call scummy besides trying to be the scum IC.
SwordSmith: Null- Need to read more on him.
Borno: Neutral leaning scum: Suspected D1 but hasn't posted anything recent to look at.
Nerjin: Null- Need to read more on him.
DeathSwrod: Neutral leaning scum: Had the chance to change his RVS vote but didn't, hasn't contributed much.
Spectr: Null- Hasn't done enought to get a good read on. Left his vote on IG in RVS then disappeared.
Thats what i have for now, did i miss anything?
A vote from deathsword Ranger
Quote from: RangerCado on April 22, 2013, 10:14:55 pm
Okami + SwordSmith: I'm going to continue to investigate Borno and see if i can find anyone else scummy.
Then why aren't you asking him questions?
Quote from: RangerCado on April 22, 2013, 10:14:55 pm
Okami: I complained about IGs death because i thought Spectr and Deaths votes were from RVS and were left there because they hadn't had time to post.
The vote stayed after RVS not due to lack of time. Read below for more. And isn't it ironic that you accuse people of not scumhunting when you are not doing it yourself?
Quote from: RangerCado on April 22, 2013, 10:14:55 pm
Spectr + The Swords: What are your thoughts on IG showing up town? Do you think he made any good points before his death?
He was lazytown and made absolutely no points at all.
Quote from: RangerCado on April 22, 2013, 10:14:55 pm
Spectr + Death: Why didn't you change your votes on IG when we left RVS? Specifically Death who had a chance to change it as he did post before the cutoff.
He behaved in a scummy way. I may have placed my vote on him in RVS, but his behaviour made me increasingly suspicious that he was scum.
{Keeping votes on your RVS targets happens quite a lot, especially when the target answers in a less-than-satisfactory way}
Nerjin and Borno: Reads, yes?
Another from cado
Ranger
Quote from: RangerCado on April 22, 2013, 10:14:55 pm
Okami + SwordSmith: I'm going to continue to investigate Borno and see if i can find anyone else scummy.
Then why aren't you asking him questions?
Quote from: RangerCado on April 22, 2013, 10:14:55 pm
Okami: I complained about IGs death because i thought Spectr and Deaths votes were from RVS and were left there because they hadn't had time to post.
The vote stayed after RVS not due to lack of time. Read below for more. And isn't it ironic that you accuse people of not scumhunting when you are not doing it yourself?
Quote from: RangerCado on April 22, 2013, 10:14:55 pm
Spectr + The Swords: What are your thoughts on IG showing up town? Do you think he made any good points before his death?
He was lazytown and made absolutely no points at all.
Quote from: RangerCado on April 22, 2013, 10:14:55 pm
Spectr + Death: Why didn't you change your votes on IG when we left RVS? Specifically Death who had a chance to change it as he did post before the cutoff.
He behaved in a scummy way. I may have placed my vote on him in RVS, but his behaviour made me increasingly suspicious that he was scum.
-snip-
Death: Everything one at a time- See below for my questions to him. Yes its ironic but i'm a hypocritical person. Point taken. His behaviour... what? You said he made no points at all and i don't recall him posting anything after his mass of posts so how could his behaviour continually get scummy from there? The only thing i can think of is lurking but when has a scum ever been caught for lurking day 1?
Borno: You along with IG, Griff, and Nerjin didn't vote Day 1. IG and Griff turned up dead and town so i can't ask them why but you i can. So, why didn't you vote? And what are your current reads? You haven't posted much so you must have something.
Nerjin: Same thing, why didn't you place a vote or request an extension?
Okami: Okay, so your voting me and you have made good points on my behaviour. However, do you have anything on anyone else? Tunneling me isn't going to help the Town too much so branch out to others. What are your reads on everyone? If i'm scum, who do you thinks my partner?
Spectr: You as well. Anyone else popping up on your radar besides me?
And here is one more from death Quote from: RangerCado on April 23, 2013, 01:04:17 pm
Quote from: Deathsword on April 23, 2013, 12:10:13 pm
Ranger
Quote from: RangerCado on April 22, 2013, 10:14:55 pm
Okami + SwordSmith: I'm going to continue to investigate Borno and see if i can find anyone else scummy.
Then why aren't you asking him questions?
Quote from: RangerCado on April 22, 2013, 10:14:55 pm
Okami: I complained about IGs death because i thought Spectr and Deaths votes were from RVS and were left there because they hadn't had time to post.
The vote stayed after RVS not due to lack of time. Read below for more. And isn't it ironic that you accuse people of not scumhunting when you are not doing it yourself?
Quote from: RangerCado on April 22, 2013, 10:14:55 pm
Spectr + The Swords: What are your thoughts on IG showing up town? Do you think he made any good points before his death?
He was lazytown and made absolutely no points at all.
Quote from: RangerCado on April 22, 2013, 10:14:55 pm
Spectr + Death: Why didn't you change your votes on IG when we left RVS? Specifically Death who had a chance to change it as he did post before the cutoff.
He behaved in a scummy way. I may have placed my vote on him in RVS, but his behaviour made me increasingly suspicious that he was scum.
-snip-
Death: Everything one at a time- See below for my questions to him. Yes its ironic but i'm a hypocritical person. Point taken. His behaviour... what? You said he made no points at all and i don't recall him posting anything after his mass of posts so how could his behaviour continually get scummy from there? The only thing i can think of is lurking but when has a scum ever been caught for lurking day 1?
His complete dissapearance after making what was essentially one extremely shallow post divided in five to look like he was doing something was scummy. He acted in a scummy way (in his 1-post-in-five) and then vanished. As for if scum has been killed for lynching D1: I do not know, but I would bet on it having happened at least once.
Ranger has one more post but it carries no
- Borno. Your defenses SUCK (in my personal opinion, please take no offense. It's all part of the game nothing personal) everything you have been saying makes you sound scummier. Don't complain about two lines of text by the way. It was just an overview of what I was saying the entire time... I just lost my train of thought... I was going to say more.. I'll leave it at that... Well this is awkward.
Sorry, I just didn't really feel the need to explain my apparently scummy actions to such a scumbag like him.
Deathsword:
Unfortunately there isn't much to go on for deathsword, as he's been sick and unable to post, however, notice how at the end of D1 he pops in to tell people that sometimes RVS votes turn into real votes. But he apparently didn't care that the other two didn't want to lynch him (or at least spectr didn't by the looks of his post the next day). It was pretty unICly in my opinion to let someone get killed without everyone's consent.
Also, I find it pretty funny that the two mafia posted in the gap between the vote count and the lynch for some reason.
Next, on the next day, the biggest post he managed to make was him jumping onto the ranger bandwagon. Then the next day the swordsmith bandwagon. Most of his posts seem to be him jumping on to bandwagons actually.
'Just post a five sentence long case on whoever has the most votes on them at the end of the day! What a genius plan! I both don't have to put any effort into this game, but it also helps to mislynch town players real quick so I can win!'