So yes, I have nothing against self defense. I'd like to strongly reiterate that, and also would like to point out the fact that judging an event as someone who wasn't there, based on someone else's interpretation isn't always the best course of action. Nothing against Damiac's reporting of the event, it's just that there's typically more at play then one perspective can give.
Thanks guys, and again, feel free to PM me if you'd like a more thorough understanding of the situation, and why it wasn't self defense from my point of view.
I get not wanting to air dirty laundry, and people arguing about stupid shit. But if you have a rule, and you want people to follow it, you might wanna show some examples of following the rule and not following it.
I also get not wanting to write yourself into a corner where some bible-thumping rules-lawyer expects GMs to stick with precedent. But I think offering examples is a good thing, even balanced against rules complexity.
I'm not saying make the rules on login more complex and comprehensive. But you might wanna give people a better understanding of what you mean by "self defense".
For example,
1: If some random non-security person walks up and tries to attack you with a stun weapon, is it ok to stun back?
2: If they attack with a deadly weapon is it ok to attack with deadly weapons back?
3: If you stun someone and capture them, is it never ok to use more force on them?
4: If you're attacked with a stun weapon, have only deadly weapons, and attack back and kill - is that acceptable self-defense?
5: If you're being followed around but not being attacked - just observed - is that an excuse to use any force at all?
6: What if they're stealing from you?
7: What if they're mucking around in your work?
8. Under what circumstances is it ok to gib someone to stop them from coming back?
In a game setting where coming back from death is a possibility, it seems like butchering a corpse to prevent that would be a separate crime, or maybe an enhancement to the murder crime. Does the AI want to protect human corpses that could potentially be revived?
TL;DR: Explain law better or expect crime.