Toony:Toaster went down in a similar fashion as Leafsnail and I'm curious what you think of that, since you clearly FoS'd both before each day end.
Yeah, that's an odd flip. It's less townie-looking than Leaf's, but I would have been much happier if it actually had a "mafiakill" action like MrCelt's did. Still, that random daykill is scum-like enough for me to buy it.
His quick agreement on the Leaf-as-deathmiller theory is puzzling, though, since if Leaf was an actual deathmiller then scum-Toaster should have been interested in preserving the illusion. Unless Toaster was too, but that's suddenly both too many (three so far) and not enough (Dariush and Shake did flip town). On the other hand, if both Toaster and Leaf were scum, then why is the game not over? Three dead mafia and one dead SK sounds to me like town should already have won... unless there's another SK (sounds somewhat unlikely) or a cult (since no one has flipped cult or outed them, if one exists they probably should have won already), and four mafia (plus SK) in a 13p game sounds too much.
Not entirely sure what to make of that yet, but let's call it a good result for now.
As for the FoS, I FoS'd Leaf because he was scummy. Toaster was less scummy, but that
"Just things in general" post seemed too half-assed to be sincere, and when reviewing I saw he had done nothing and indeed basked on the assumptions people made about MrCelt's lynch, so I challenged him on that.
People: during day three Toaster has been getting a free "confirmed townie" pass because of that lynch of MrCelt. But Toaster is the master of the bussing. Go see how he bussed his buddy on BP1 and others, he's the best there is at cunningly using a scumbuddy's blood to wash his hands clean.
That link is nowhere near as substantial. Toaster's vote wasn't a swing vote in that case, in other words, unless he wanted to tie the vote and fuck himself and his partner the next day there's no way in hell he'd go through with that. The Mr. Celt lynch was much more concrete and absolute.
Right, when I posted I was hoping Toaster himself would ask that question, so I could reply with
BSER where he decisively broke the tie lynching his buddy
and Shortened[1], and I was baiting Toaster to ask for it, but he didn't. There are other examples, I'm sure.
(Unrelated: but that BP1 bus was more cunning and influential than you give it credit; remember, he had it there for days and could have moved to Janus or Org early enough to increase a wagon to spare Dariush, but he didn't)I'd also like to hear what you think of Jack AT right now too.
Nothing much has changed. My gut still says he is scummy due to interactions with/about MrCelt, and his sporadic activity doesn't help much, but I don't really have more than that to form a case on him.
As for suspicions,
MBP and Zombie are at the top at the moment. I would like both to give their reads on the situation, what do they think about remaining factions, top suspicions and any information they can share.
Jack, you too please.
PS: I
totally called it that Shakerag was behind the voting crazyness (yeah, not too esoteric a guess, but still). Too bad he flipped town instead of Outsider, but man, I won't miss that bit. Glad it never rolled "liar's dice voting system."