Forgot to refresh my vote for the new day. It still stands on
Chaos Armor.
Note that Shakerag was MIA on vacation (I think it was vacation) until about page 7, so I didn't dig too much before that. To be honest, there's not a lot to go on D1 period. Both Flying and Shake manage to avoid suspicion the first day. There was exactly one question between them, and it was a softball question at that. It's D1 though, so I really didn't expect much. It is interesting how they didn't interact at all, though.
This is equal parts bullshit and related to the association fallacy. Two people are largely ignored in RVS (not unusual) and don't interact with each other much, therefore they are scumbuddies? The first is hardly something I could control, unless you suspect that everyone in the game except yourself is a sockpuppet. The second is coincidental (there were several people I hardly interacted with in RVS)--indeed, there are several that I
still haven't interacted with, yourself included. So by that logic, you and I are also scumbuddies because we (well, I and your predecessor) didn't interact much. I know
I'm not scum, so that alone puts a hole in this bit of fluff pretending to be a sound argument.
D2 is a little different story. They each come out guns blazing. They each pick out their respective target, and start laying into them (FD with a little more vigor). Even when Shake asks FD a question, he manages to include a jab at Deathsword.
I will admit that Deathsword did a very admirable job of digging his own grave. But they each have an almost single-minded focus on their target of choice. I also like how most of their questions to each other appear to be asked only to give a way to backpedal, or to strengthen one of their cases.
More of the same bullshit, with an added side of Too-Town fallacy. I'm scum because I scumhunt someone hard? As for the last, see the above. You're inventing relationships out of whole cloth based entirely on the fact that I'm not pressuring Shakerag heavily and haven't had too much interaction with him. Again, this logic is flawed, as by it virtually anyone in this game could be scumbuddies with anyone else; most of us have only really gone after one or two people, leaving fairly little pressure for others. To me, this says that you don't care about building a real case and just want to throw together something that might push us into a mislynch.
Incidentally,
Extend, as most of us seem to be content to lurk through MYLO.
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So the fact that I was able to provide reasonable rationale for my thoughts and actions means that I'm scum? What?
FD's characterization of himself taking fire here while he has a whole one vote doesn't help him either (and thanks for pointing it out Tir, I almost missed it). It's scum being over-sensitive to attention.
I already answered this
I didn't say anything about a "full assault"; my implication was more akin to a few stray shots zipping by overhead. I offered a more extensive explanation of my reasoning and thought process because my responses were being largely ignored when I responded with the bare minimum or with nothing but the end of my train of thought. Any reason why you're cherrypicking the least-relevant portions of my posts and misinterpreting metaphorical statements instead of scumhunting?
and I honestly don't need to change a single word.
And at the start of D3, once the Cop got shot?
Seriously? Damn.
Shit.
Yeah, I can feel the sincerity.
And folks, this is why so many townies tend to lurk through MLYO/LYLO: Because someone will invariably attack them for being town or being honest. So Hapah, were
you not upset that the cop got NKed, you scumbag?
D3 opens with FD throwing another broadside at Chaos, and then Theo asks this question:
Flying Dice
What do you think of IronyOwl turning up Cop? You were hitting the 'Suspect the ICs' drum for a bit (#212, #201) and now one of them turns up dead and town. Does that change your perceptions at all?
At which FD makes the biggest hedge post I've ever seen, AND tries to diffuse Tir's suspicion of Shake in one go.
Flying Dice
What do you think of IronyOwl turning up Cop? You were hitting the 'Suspect the ICs' drum for a bit (#212, #201) and now one of them turns up dead and town. Does that change your perceptions at all?
My perceptions? Yes, obviously, because I have more information. Though it was less the "Suspect the ICs' drum and more the 'Suspect Everyone, Regardless of Who They Are' drum. Anyhow I don't particularly regret doing so, though the story might be slightly different if it had lead to a mislynch. Possibly because the BMXXXIII IC-scumteam was still very fresh in my mind and I didn't want to let anyone be ignored. I'm not going to spread WIFOM by speculating on the reasons (if any) for the scum NKing IronyOwl, if that was what you were pushing for.
Honestly, I didn't think it was that hard to understand. Here, I'll dumb it down:
1. Yes, my perceptions have changed because I have new data.
2. I was pushing for
everyone to be considered suspect, not for ICs specifically to be targeted. They were mentioned specifically because of the tendency in BM to not suspect ICs of being scum, and that was happening here.
3. I refuse to spread WIFOM.
So in other words, three clear statements. Sounds like you're scraping the barrel for fluff to dress up as evidence.
In short, you built an argument out of the Too-Townie fallacy, "evidence" that could be applied to just about every pair of players still in the game, and a few dashes of smoke & mirrors. So sorry, try again!
Anyhow:
Everyone: We're on MYLO, people, stop lurking!
Chaos Armor: Not going to respond now that my argument is stated too concisely for you to ignore it and pick at meaningless fluff?