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Re: Food Thread: Fry Me a River
« Reply #1006 on: March 03, 2014, 07:37:44 pm »

Truly, truly fascinating Bauglir. Thank you so much. That has given me a lot to think about.
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Re: Food Thread: Fry Me a River
« Reply #1007 on: March 03, 2014, 08:53:58 pm »

Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do after accidentally* pouring something like a full ounce to ounce and a half of ground black pepper onto a roughly packed-ramen sized meal?

Pour spices onto your hand before putting them in food. Saved a lot of meals from defective salt shakers in that way.
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Re: Food Thread: Fry Me a River
« Reply #1008 on: March 07, 2014, 12:11:50 pm »

Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do after accidentally* pouring something like a full ounce to ounce and a half of ground black pepper onto a roughly packed-ramen sized meal?

Pour spices onto your hand before putting them in food. Saved a lot of meals from defective salt shakers in that way.

Yup, I started doing that after a similar mishap.

For dinner last night, I made Mushroom and Goat Cheese Paella.  Finally put the saffron in my pantry to use!
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Re: Food Thread: Fry Me a River
« Reply #1009 on: March 07, 2014, 12:18:06 pm »

Dammit man all your stuff looks goddamn delicious.
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Re: Food Thread: Fry Me a River
« Reply #1010 on: March 07, 2014, 12:33:57 pm »

Today, after toasting bread only to discover the lack of any standard sandwich spreads in my sister's house, I discovered that whole egg mayonnaise goes quite well on its own on buttered toast. Sadly this is about as close as I've come to any innovative cooking in a while... :-\
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Re: Food Thread: Fry Me a River
« Reply #1011 on: March 07, 2014, 03:12:26 pm »

Hey, so I was wondering.

Here in the Russlands, we have a wonderful beverage known as ryazhenka, a kind of fermented baked milk. It's fucktons of awesome. It has this creamy brownish color because of the sugars in the milk caramelizing, and tastes better than kefir. Has anybody in here ever tried baked milk? I mean, Wikipedia has an article, but does anybody in Western Europe or the US or the UK actually drink it?

This is related to the last discussion about whether tvorog is cheese (still think it's not: for me they are distinct, and the chain is like milk - tvorog - cheese. Saying that tvorog is cheese is like saying cheese is milk.) I kinda realized I eat a lot of dairy stuff. It's like, you think traditional food is something done by people in stupid clothing on stupid festivals nobody cares about, and then you realize that the everyday things you consume are markedly different from what the rest of the world eats.

Another thing: I dunno about other places, but in Russia, condensed milk comes in tin cans. So on trips, people who go on trips (an actual subculture in the post-USSR countries: guys who go hiking long distances, carrying all their grub with them, or sail down rivers in awesome Soviet kayaks) do a cool thing.
You have to take a pot of water, a can of condensed milk, chuck the can into the pot and boil it without opening the can for a few hours: take care so water doesn't run out, or the can could explode. You usually know it's done because the coating on the cans oxidizes after being boiled for a long time, and changes color from silver to gold. The result is like dulce de leche, but awesomer.

And the Turkic and Caucasian peoples have this drink called airan - it's like a frothy milk-something thing: weird but awesome.

If this post lacks coherence, sorry - I was a bit bored and decided to post some dairy-related stuff, just because. I'll go disappear now.
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Re: Food Thread: Fry Me a River
« Reply #1012 on: March 07, 2014, 03:23:11 pm »

As an American, I didn't even know that was a thing. I only ever drink milk plain, or on cereal.
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Re: Food Thread: Fry Me a River
« Reply #1013 on: March 07, 2014, 03:30:31 pm »

Never heard of baked milk, and I live in the Czech Republic.

It doesn't sound very good to me, but then again I've never liked the taste of milk and I recently developed pretty nasty lactose intolerance, so I'm biased. (Sometimes I eat cheese anyway, but then I can't be around other humans for a couple of days.)

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Re: Food Thread: Fry Me a River
« Reply #1014 on: March 07, 2014, 03:45:33 pm »

You have to take a pot of water, a can of condensed milk, chuck the can into the pot and boil it without opening the can for a few hours: take care so water doesn't run out, or the can could explode.

I'll have to give this a try!

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Re: Food Thread: Fry Me a River
« Reply #1015 on: March 07, 2014, 03:51:27 pm »

I haven't ever heard of this baked milk thing.

But I can confirm as a scientifically tested fact, that kefir is indeed the best liquid form of milk you can taste without having to resort to lethal amounts of opiates to enhance the flavour.
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Re: Food Thread: Fry Me a River
« Reply #1016 on: March 07, 2014, 04:22:53 pm »

You have to take a pot of water, a can of condensed milk, chuck the can into the pot and boil it without opening the can for a few hours: take care so water doesn't run out, or the can could explode.

I'll have to give this a try!
Just be careful opening it afterwards - it can get enthusiastic about escaping the can.


But I can confirm as a scientifically tested fact, that kefir is indeed the best liquid form of milk you can taste without having to resort to lethal amounts of opiates to enhance the flavour.

Ryazhenka is, strangely enough, better. It has the same tangy metallic kefir-taste-thing, but with a caramel note and a prettier color.
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Re: Food Thread: Fry Me a River
« Reply #1017 on: March 07, 2014, 05:00:44 pm »

Condensed milk, Russian-style is, indeed, delicious. Baked sounds interesting, I've read of it on Wikipedia a few months ago.
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Re: Food Thread: Fry Me a River
« Reply #1018 on: March 07, 2014, 05:03:30 pm »

So it didn't explode and sprayed thick hot white liquid at you?
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Re: Food Thread: Fry Me a River
« Reply #1019 on: March 07, 2014, 05:06:12 pm »

The best liquid form of milk I ever drank came from Caucasus and was called "tan". Or "airan", it had both of these on the bottle.
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