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[Frogwarrior]

What about rocs? As far as I know, they do not reproduce.

[KodKod]

No CHILD tag, no offspring. Eets very simple.

A Roc, however, DOES have a Child tag. So you can expect little flappy bastard offspring if you have a breeding pair.

[NW_Kohaku]

Rocs are some of the largest creatures you can reasonably expect to be able to tame if you manage a breeding pair.  Jabberers are a close second, though, as a "can be found most places" type of creature.

Giant Elephant Seals are almost as big as dragons, though, and are amphibious, and the largest creature in the game is the Giant Sperm Whale, which is unfortunately not much use out of the water, though.

[Girlinhat]

...Giant Sperm Whale.  That sounds terrifying in all manners and all forms of every word that terror may represent.

[NW_Kohaku]

Amusingly, a Giant Sperm Whale farm is perhaps the single greatest food industry you could possibly have.  A single adult whale feeds a full fortress for 7-14 years. 

War Giant Sperm Whales would be a real sight to behold.  You could probably throw them at the HFS, and it would actually take them a while to win.  In fact, on an evil embark, get a Giant Sperm Whale Thrall, and you'd have the ultimate weapon. 

[Kogut]

"Upgrading from an older DF version causes egglaying animals to lay untame children." - confirmed, fixed (see http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=5701 )

[KodKod]

...Giant Sperm Whale.  That sounds terrifying in all manners and all forms of every word that terror may represent.

Amusingly, a Giant Sperm Whale farm is perhaps the single greatest food industry you could possibly have.  A single adult whale feeds a full fortress for 7-14 years. 

War Giant Sperm Whales would be a real sight to behold.  You could probably throw them at the HFS, and it would actually take them a while to win.  In fact, on an evil embark, get a Giant Sperm Whale Thrall, and you'd have the ultimate weapon. 

From hell's heart I stab at thee! For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee!

[Garath]

I've had a group of warthog piglets be born at +trained+, then my knowledge or trainers skill improved and they became *trained*. I put them in a cage to minimize interaction with trainers so noone would suffer a mental breakdown from being bonded to them when they were slaughtered, but after 2 seasons they were only (trained)

[Naryar]

According to my science, it's fine if you butcher trained creatures as long as you cancel their training first.

I trained five crundles to well-trained, then canceled training (in the animal screen) on two and butchered these ones. Hell, their trainer even butchered them.

No negative thoughts about it at all.

[Garath]

good to know

[Ubiq]

Things that I've noticed from my experiences to date:

[USE_ANY_PET_RACE] gives you a dozen or so pages of Domesticated animals with every mountain and first cavern level creature in there.

Dwarves have General Familiarity with Rutherers, Jabberers, and Giant Cave Crawlers, but no other creatures from those cavern levels are listed; this presumably comes though contact with those creatures because of goblins using them as mounts.

Five Crundles raised their familiarity to "A Few Facts" level of knowledge from that animal not even being listed. If some of that horde of bug bats will oblige me by flying into some of the cage traps I've thoughtfully provided, I'll see if the same holds true for them. I only have one of them trained so far and they still aren't listed yet. It'd be nice if some more Rutherers would do the same instead of just breeding about ten tiles away from the traps. Rutherers tend to have triplets by the way.

A Great Animal Trainer gets Exceptional and Superior Training for animals with at least a General Familiarity (my first Rutherer along with her three children are exceptionally trained), but tends to average around Well Trained for animals that he or she only knows A Few Facts about. Size doesn't seem to have anything to do with it.

It has been almost a year now and Ruthie the Exceptional Rutherer hasn't had any problems. Almost all of the Crundles have been retrained in the last six months.

[FrisianDude]

Maybe it's a nice idea to keep the following threads handy as well as some of the things in the first post are sort of explained there:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=105402.0
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=105668.0
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=105597.0
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=105432.0
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=105597.0
At least some of those might be relevant.

Now I'll go read this actual thread.

Edit; I like this thread.

[Garath]

we're basically trying to collect all the little posts from people about "I trained this and this happened, is it normal?" in one place. I hope we're reducing the clutter a little 

A little off-topic idea:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

probably should have something like a sticky with links to all threads like this, something like "READ THIS FIRST, links to FAQs"

changelog
vampire facts
animal training facts
militairy facts
weapons, armor and materials
Aquifer facts/help
strange mood facts/help
terrifying biome facts/help/hints
Frequently asked other questions (Think of the regular question "what is this? The human child "blah blah" has arrived, and now he already left")
(fill in yourself if I missed anything important)

and put it both here and at the gameplay questions.

I think it would help reduce the number of the same questions continually popping up.

[Broseph Stalin]

According to my science, it's fine if you butcher trained creatures as long as you cancel their training first.

I trained five crundles to well-trained, then canceled training (in the animal screen) on two and butchered these ones. Hell, their trainer even butchered them.

No negative thoughts about it at all.

Check your trainers relationships, is he "Bonded" to any of the animals he butchered?

[Girlinhat]

Once we get things more confirmed and settled, I'll use that reserved 2nd post to put a basic rundown of "how does tamed crundle?"  Then I'll add it to Relativity.