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Author Topic: Science Thread: Taming and Training  (Read 73488 times)

jaxy15

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Re: Science Thread: Taming and Training
« Reply #120 on: March 29, 2012, 03:07:29 pm »

I've set first unassigned trainer to make my jaguar a war jaguar, but nothing is really happening, am I missing something?
You're missing an animal training activity zone.
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Re: Science Thread: Taming and Training
« Reply #121 on: March 29, 2012, 03:08:48 pm »

I've set first unassigned trainer to make my jaguar a war jaguar, but nothing is really happening, am I missing something?

Go through the checklist of knowns that Girlinhat has posted a few times. My guess is that you don't have a training zone (i menu).
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Re: Science Thread: Taming and Training
« Reply #122 on: March 29, 2012, 03:09:53 pm »

How embarrassing, I just assumed it used pastures.
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Re: Science Thread: Taming and Training
« Reply #123 on: March 29, 2012, 03:26:41 pm »

Any (2nd gen) animals born from tame animals will be semi-wild at birth.
Any (3rd gen) animals born from tame animals will be domestic at birth.
The offspring of a tame creature will be more/completely tame.

My testing refutes the first two, complete domestication comes from taming a young animal not from heredity.

It also appears that the offspring of an animal will have it's mothers training level, no more no less.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2012, 07:46:23 pm by Broseph Stalin »
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Girlinhat

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Re: Science Thread: Taming and Training
« Reply #124 on: March 29, 2012, 04:32:59 pm »

Updated OP.

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Re: Science Thread: Taming and Training
« Reply #125 on: March 29, 2012, 05:40:13 pm »

On a semi-side note (not from the entire topic, though)... has anyone else had trouble taming the mounts of enemies? I've picked up some giant toads and cave crocodiles from goblin sieges, and tried to tame them... but even after the trainers had their session with the critters, when I tried to pasture them, they attacked.

(I'm not sure if this is due to them being mounts, or is the whole "animals that have tasted blood will still attack" thing, which I thought was supposed to be fixed.)
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Re: Science Thread: Taming and Training
« Reply #126 on: March 29, 2012, 07:28:42 pm »

A stork reverted to wild. Before the trainer could do anything about it, a hunter burst into the pasture and shot it to death. I can't stop laughing.

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Re: Science Thread: Taming and Training
« Reply #127 on: March 29, 2012, 07:46:55 pm »

Trainer: "Hey! I'm training here!"
Hunter: "It were wild. That makes it fair game. I got a quota to fill."
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Re: Science Thread: Taming and Training
« Reply #128 on: March 29, 2012, 08:24:11 pm »

I was thinking more like:
"You don't have to thank me for saving you from that snarling giant bird that was about to peck your head off."
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"what? You were gonna butcher him eventually anyways..."
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Re: Science Thread: Taming and Training
« Reply #129 on: March 29, 2012, 08:29:47 pm »

Lodom raised his head sharply.  The stork reacted by raising its head and taking a short step back.  Lodom stared at it for a moment before opening his bag and pulling out a fish.  The stork jumped forward quickly, snatching the fish out of his hand and scratching his wrist.

"Ey, you dumb ol' bird..." Lodom muttered as the stork swallowed the fish and began to calm down.  From somewhere in the fortress came a faint rumbling.  No doubt another siege suffering repeating spikes, or another magma forge suffering cataclysmic explosion.

"Yeah, that's right..." Lodom reached out to stroke his palm over the stork's beak as the large bird nuzzled into his touch.  The noise grew a bit louder, perhaps sudden flooding, or cave-in construction methods were in play.  Not that it was his concern.  He had his task and it wasn't his task to worry about what the masons were doing.

"Bwah!" The bird stood upright and looked about calmly.  Lodom smiled and nodded just before the doorway exploded open, slamming the +iron door+ into the wall hard enough to send stone chips flying as Bromek charged in.  A stampeding mass of muscle and fat, the legendary hunter tore across the room as if HFS itself was behind him.  His furious gait managed to hide the motion of his arm as his crossbow swung around and one slick shot zipped across the remaining distance and stuck in the stork's abdomen.

"Bromek!" Lodom shouted.

"It bit ye!" Bromek declared, staring wide-eyed and intense at the trainer, "I saw it, I know it!  It bit ye, it did!  It did!"

Lodom took a step back, the animated kinsmen waving his crossbow around as he continued to shout and grabbed the stork by the neck, dragging the corpse along behind him, "I know it bit ye!  Is wild, cannae' trust the animals.  Can't!  It bit ye!"

"...ok." Lodom took another step back and simply stared as Bromek shambled out of the room leaving a smear of blood leading down the hallway and towards the butcher's shop.

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Re: Science Thread: Taming and Training
« Reply #130 on: March 29, 2012, 08:33:12 pm »

My observation:

Well-Trained does not revert (or takes very long)
Trained will revert to wild
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Re: Science Thread: Taming and Training
« Reply #131 on: March 29, 2012, 08:59:51 pm »

"...ok." Lodom took another step back and simply stared as Bromek shambled out of the room leaving a smear of blood leading down the hallway and towards the butcher's shop.
In a nearby cage, another stork watched stoically as Lodom turned to approach...
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Re: Science Thread: Taming and Training
« Reply #132 on: March 29, 2012, 09:26:05 pm »

Just caught a Hydra. Hopefully maybe I'll get lucky enough to get a second and get Hydra babies. FOR SCIENCE!

Unfortunately I don't have any good animal trainers.
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Re: Science Thread: Taming and Training
« Reply #133 on: March 29, 2012, 09:30:37 pm »

Hydra appear to not have a CHILD tag, though they are egglayers.  Similarly, dragons don't have a CHILD tag, but dragons breed during worldgen, so the jury is out on how eggs interact with children.

Actually, I think hydra lack eggs as well...

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Re: Science Thread: Taming and Training
« Reply #134 on: March 29, 2012, 09:38:18 pm »

Without ze CHILD tag dragon eggs are little more than tasty snacks for your dwarves.
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