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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1286081 times)

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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #510 on: March 14, 2012, 09:13:53 pm »

That censorship was really weird. Why were they censored at all, actually? :I
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #511 on: March 14, 2012, 09:17:10 pm »

Maybe bare chests are offensive in Australia?  ;D
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #512 on: March 14, 2012, 09:18:05 pm »

Not really, it has more to do with being an ad coming out of a religious conservative who thinks men holding hands is offensive.

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« Reply #513 on: March 14, 2012, 09:21:52 pm »

The whole thing is just playing on the "ick" factor. But showing someones grandparents "doin' the do" is pretty "ick" too, yet nobody would take that to mean it should be illegal.

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« Reply #514 on: March 14, 2012, 09:27:12 pm »

The whole thing is just playing on the "ick" factor. But showing someones grandparents "doin' the do" is pretty "ick" too, yet nobody would take that to mean it should be illegal.
Ah, but grandparents have already bred, hopefully as many times as biologically possible! Thus they have fulfilled their duty to society, unlike those evil gays.

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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #515 on: March 14, 2012, 09:32:50 pm »

Seriously? It is just expected over there?
It is making fucking national news over here for the controversy... People are either up in arms and insulted, laughing at just how bad the entire thing is, or thumping bibles. Protip: Katter is the only one with a bible in hand.

Attack ads worse than that wouldn't raise any eyebrows on my part. As far as I'm concerned, it just gives me an extra reason to avoid television.
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« Reply #516 on: March 14, 2012, 09:34:49 pm »

Ok, I think I may have found one of the causes of why your nation is the way it is... Firstly, politics is not meant to be about who has the biggest, holiest dick.

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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #517 on: March 14, 2012, 09:39:08 pm »

"My dick is 80 million dollars long"
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #518 on: March 14, 2012, 09:40:06 pm »

I think it's partly because we tried to set limits on how much candidates could advertize themselves.

So, to get around that limit, a legally unrelated organization shows ads against the other guys.

It might be better to just allow them to put all their money into positive ads for themselves, than have to listen to all this bile.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #519 on: March 14, 2012, 09:51:18 pm »

I think it's partly because we tried to set limits on how much candidates could advertize themselves.

So, to get around that limit, a legally unrelated organization shows ads against the other guys.

It might be better to just allow them to put all their money into positive ads for themselves, than have to listen to all this bile.

You know that they'd just directly pay for the personal attacks then though.... :P
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« Reply #520 on: March 14, 2012, 10:39:52 pm »

What country are we talking about?

Attack ads pretty much run on the logic that, "If I convince [audience] that the other guy is wrong (or just a dick), then by logical deduction I must be correct, so [audience] will vote for I"

Which is bullpocky, since it is entirely possible (and altogether common) for everyone to be wrong at the same time. And probably dicks too.
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« Reply #521 on: March 14, 2012, 10:42:44 pm »

What country are we talking about?

Attack ads pretty much run on the logic that, "If I convince [audience] that the other guy is wrong (or just a dick), then by logical deduction I must be correct, so [audience] will vote for I"

Which is bullpocky, since it is entirely possible (and altogether common) for everyone to be wrong at the same time. And probably dicks too.

Well, We're sorta comparing the US to Aus from what I can tell.

As for the rest of what you said, you're right with one critical flaw. "Logic," most people tragically don't use it. It is often choosing the lesser of two evils, so they make the other guy out to be the greater evil....
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #522 on: March 14, 2012, 10:45:16 pm »

Yeah, one reason I wish we had more than two parties to vote for over here (US).
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #523 on: March 15, 2012, 12:10:30 am »

"My dick is 80 million dollars long"
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #524 on: March 15, 2012, 12:42:06 am »

Rick Santorum doesn't know what he's talking about and no one should be surprised: http://news.yahoo.com/santorum-doesnt-seem-mind-offending-puerto-rico-210301975.html

There is no such law saying you have to speak English to be a U.S. State.... Come on man, the place has a Spanish name....

He's also trying to jump on Obama for still saying "57 States Primaries, instead of 50, duh." Wait, wait, wait, I know what you might be thinking. Yes, there are 50 states, but there are 57 primaries. How you ask? What we do have 57 of? States, commonwealths, another kind of commonwealths, districts, and territories. In other words, we have 57 primaries and caucuses.

As mentioned in the article above. Puerto Rico, not a state, has a primary with I think 23 delegates total? Then there's Guam (9 delegates), Northern Mariana Is.(9 delegates), U.S. Virgin Islands (9 delegates), American Samoa (9 delegates), Washington, D.C. (19 delegates) and I'm forgetting one, but meh. Let's say I'm in the ballpark with those delegate numbers in as close a race as we're running, that's 78 delegates up for grabs.... That could make a pretty big difference.
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