Heh heh heh heh heh.
Orright, yeah.
Andrew425: Ignoring people is not nice, but it is a way better reaction than the one I expected! Good job, you are off the hook.
To answer the question: What the fuck were you doing; I was trying to prove that D1 lynches are bullshit. I was expecting a panicky reaction from him, which I would respond to by stating clearly that my case was not to be taken seriously, then presenting a case which made him look like obvscum.
Happily, he ignored me, probably out of confusion. This has me inclined towards thinking that A) He's alright and B) He's maybe not scum (the chance of him being scum in my eyes has slightly decreased)
MBP. One: Quotes work like this. Put
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Two: You are suffering from Mafia Dogma. This is a condition where you assume that anything which is a habit in mafia is an unbreakable law which must be done and anyone who does not obey these laws is SCUM. I would like you to think.
No Lynch. Proposing this D1- does this really make me scum? Why would I, as scum, propose this course of action? Does this seem likely? In what situation would I, as town, propose this course of action? Does this seem likely? In what situation would this, from a town perspective, actually be the right thing to do? Does this seem likely?
These are not rhetorical questions. I would really like for you to ask each of these questions to yourself. If, having internally answered each of them, you still think that I am scum, I would like you to explain why. I will then respond to this. At the moment, you have basically given me nothing to respond to. It would appear that in your eyes, I sealed my fate the moment I red'd those two words.
OrangebottleTo a degree, the same response as to MBP. To a lesser degree, though, because I get the impression that you have at the very least briefly considered what I have asked MBP to consider.
One thing you have been accosting me over: Apparently I am advocating doing nothing. I do not recall this happening. When did this happen. Have I, am I, doing nothing? I do not believe so. No Lynch does not preclude people from talking. It does not preclude people from spilling their scumguts all over the place. However, it does mean no one dies at the end.
I believe that D1 lynches often hit the wrong people. Even when one is really quite certain. In... what was it? Totem? I proposed just lynching someone at random, because it would have a higher chance of hitting scum than a well-thought out lynch. I would propose the same here, but for fear that we might lose someone interesting. (Totem, being a Meph game, was liable to be less chaotic than this one. Also I was scum and wanted everyone dead ASAP)
PersonWell, I can't really say anything against a policy lynch. Happily, as I am not playing in the manner that you wish to policy lynch against, there is no need for you to vote for me. I am playing the game. Voting no lynch is quite an aggressive action, really. Consider all the reactions it got me?
I am looking for a lynch target. However, I will not be attempting to lynch them. I will make my case, reduce their counterarguments to ashes, and then I will maintain my 'no lynch' vote, because no matter how certain I am, I have learnt that D1 certainty is worth squat.
My hope is that the person (people) I identify as probscum will be either investigated or blocked or something along those lines. And if nothing better has come up by D2, I would be all up for lynching them. My no lynch policy is merely to give everyone the chance to gather information N1 before we start killing ourselves.
I do not intend to lurk, by any definition of the word.
Your math is too specific. We don't know the numbers, and pretending we do is pointless. The level of chaos that is to be expected this game is unknown. We don't even know if there is a mafia, or if we are dealing with a cult, or if there's just an awful lot of third-parties.
Powder Miner:You are a bandwagoning fuck and I think you are scum. The point of the reaction test has been stated. Saying I am trying to look active is stupid as I clearly actually am active.
Why did you wait until after person voted for me before voicing your concerns? Because you are bandwagoning scum, thats why.
OttofarFuck you on principle. You are not org, and even if you were, org was a dick. Die in a fire.
ECrownOfFireI see you jump in to answer a question all snappy like. Then jump out without another word. WHAT THE FUCK. Play the gosh-darned game, man.
Dariush:No. If no one comes forwards with useful information (such as a guilty investigation result), we look at the obvious night actions (kills, possible escalation of DEFCON), analyse, in the cold dawn light (tempers having been tempered by a night of rest), the chances that obvscum from D1 actually are scum, and then we start lynching.
TolyK:Do you, truly, really, actually believe that you (or anyone else for that matter) is good enough to pick out scum from the crowd reliably D1?
Me, I don't. This based on a long list of prior D1s where obvscum has been lynched and flipped town, whilst the scum flew completely under the radar.
So even if we get scum-tells, I strongly recommend patience, rather than jumping to string 'em up.
Responses: Done. Suspicions forthcoming.
Firstly, a big round of BLUE to all the
LURKERS out there. You know who you are. You are sitting there, watching the thread, thinking 'eh, I don't have anything to add, and no one is asking me anything'. Here's what you do: post anyway. Find something to add. Not a stupid question about mechanics. Not a question at all. A statement. For example 'I think No Lynching is ok'. In dealing with the subsequent backlash, much will be learnt. Just try to keep the backlash under control, because massive shitfights just make things hard to read. Keep it constructive.
To be fair, it is the weekend, and the game has just become. Nevertheless, some people are edging into lurky territory, and it is best to nip such things at the bud. This includes:
ECoF (see above)
Darvi; came in for two posts of minimal content.
NativeForeigner: Has explained his absence, so that's ok. Still, one expects him to return in strength on monday.
Simple: One post. One post of RVS bullshit. Weekend, yes. But still. He had better be back.
Webadict on principle, because come on: he's
Webadict. But seriously, I believe there was once a quote in someone's signature about how if Webadict survives the first night, he's probably scum? Yeah, that's a pretty accurate statement.
Other people: Not yet. Which is not to say I am not looking, and certainly several of my responses should provide more information.