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Live stream and video. Newfangled technology must be applied to everything!

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Total Members Voted: 28

Voting closed: January 19, 2012, 06:50:05 pm

[Teneb]

Well, it's still a few pages before #100, so it could still happen

[Mego]

So, funny story. I opened up Dwarf Fortress to play more of my turn today. (funny inorite?) Well, I was quite confused when there were no fortresses named "Shashmebzuth" on the Continue Playing menu. I started freaking out, until I realized I had been playing the turn on the Linux side of my computer. I'm on Windows now. Linux can do read/write operations on NTFS filesystems, but Windows can't even detect the existence of ext4 filesystems. That means, I have to reboot into Linux, copy the save into my Windows DF folder, and then go back to Windows.

FORTRESS PROGRAMMERS! I NEED AN EXT4 READER FOR WINDOWS!

[Grath]

So, funny story. I opened up Dwarf Fortress to play more of my turn today. (funny inorite?) Well, I was quite confused when there were no fortresses named "Shashmebzuth" on the Continue Playing menu. I started freaking out, until I realized I had been playing the turn on the Linux side of my computer. I'm on Windows now. Linux can do read/write operations on NTFS filesystems, but Windows can't even detect the existence of ext4 filesystems. That means, I have to reboot into Linux, copy the save into my Windows DF folder, and then go back to Windows.

FORTRESS PROGRAMMERS! I NEED AN EXT4 READER FOR WINDOWS!

Better solution: Just keep the save in the Windows DF version, then do a symlink of the save folder in the NTFS partition into your Linux DF folder. Then you just have one save folder between the two versions and problem solved.

[Mego]

The problem is, I started playing on Linux before I considered being smart like that. An ext4 reader for Windows would be so helpful. Expect an update sometime today.

[Grath]

Oh, I totally agree there. I'm just suggesting a workaround for future issues like this.

[Gizogin]

So, funny story. I opened up Dwarf Fortress to play more of my turn today. (funny inorite?) Well, I was quite confused when there were no fortresses named "Shashmebzuth" on the Continue Playing menu. I started freaking out, until I realized I had been playing the turn on the Linux side of my computer. I'm on Windows now. Linux can do read/write operations on NTFS filesystems, but Windows can't even detect the existence of ext4 filesystems. That means, I have to reboot into Linux, copy the save into my Windows DF folder, and then go back to Windows.

FORTRESS PROGRAMMERS! I NEED AN EXT4 READER FOR WINDOWS!

Better solution: Just keep the save in the Windows DF version, then do a symlink of the save folder in the NTFS partition into your Linux DF folder. Then you just have one save folder between the two versions and problem solved.

Translation:  Blah blah technobabble blah science wizardry jargon blah blah strange words. 

[Grath]

So, funny story. I opened up Dwarf Fortress to play more of my turn today. (funny inorite?) Well, I was quite confused when there were no fortresses named "Shashmebzuth" on the Continue Playing menu. I started freaking out, until I realized I had been playing the turn on the Linux side of my computer. I'm on Windows now. Linux can do read/write operations on NTFS filesystems, but Windows can't even detect the existence of ext4 filesystems. That means, I have to reboot into Linux, copy the save into my Windows DF folder, and then go back to Windows.

FORTRESS PROGRAMMERS! I NEED AN EXT4 READER FOR WINDOWS!

Better solution: Just keep the save in the Windows DF version, then do a symlink of the save folder in the NTFS partition into your Linux DF folder. Then you just have one save folder between the two versions and problem solved.

Translation:  Blah blah technobabble blah science wizardry jargon blah blah strange words.

Non-Technobabble Translation: Windows and Linux store files using different methods. Linux has a way to understand how Windows stores files, but nobody has yet made a way for Windows to understand how Linux stores files. Therefore, to be able to easily play Dwarf Fortress in either Windows or Linux, store the save files in the DF folder in Windows, and then tell Linux to pretend that the save files folder in the Windows DF folder is also in the DF folder in Linux.

I'd offer my help of an EXT4 reader, but I still have another year and a half before I even get my Bachelor's degree in Computer Science, and my college is solely a Linux shop so I don't know how to do that kind of low-end stuff in Windows.

[Esta]

Hmm... I did some Google searches and I found an article on that.
http://www.soluvas.com/read-browse-explore-open-ext2-ext3-ext4-partition-filesystem-from-windows-7/
The article recommended Ext2Read for that purpose.
I can't guarantee it'll work, though, and the article says you'll need to run it as an administrator.

[Mego]

Ext2Read will only read ext2 filesystems. The differences between ext2 and ext4 are major enough that the program doesn't work.

Spoiler: Technobabble (click to show/hide)

The problem is, ext4 filesystems have these things called logical volumes, which allow one folder to be spread out through the disk, or even across multiple partitions. They do other cool things as well, but that's the major thing. Ext2Read can't read logical volumes. Unfortunately, my /home directory is on a logical volume. So, no dice.

[MagmaMcFry]

So what's the problem with Grath's solution?

[Esta]

So what's the problem with Grath's solution?

Non-Technobabble Translation: Windows and Linux store files using different methods. Linux has a way to understand how Windows stores files, but nobody has yet made a way for Windows to understand how Linux stores files. Therefore, to be able to easily play Dwarf Fortress in either Windows or Linux, store the save files in the DF folder in Windows, and then tell Linux to pretend that the save files folder in the Windows DF folder is also in the DF folder in Linux.

The problem is, I started playing on Linux...

Grath's solution means you have to start with Windows. Mego started with Linux, and we don't have a tool to turn the Linux file and make it usable with Windows.

[Mego]

Other than rebooting, which I did. The save is now resting on my Windows partition. I am about to start playing again, now that I'm done with the gajillion things I had to do today that I didn't know I had to do.

[Eric Blank]

Days that go like that always suck.

Of course, having your friend stay over and hardly talk to you at all feels pretty bad.

[The Master]

Derailment is magic.

[Mego]

Hmm... I have an idea.

Voting time: Should I do traditional updates for the rest of my turn, or do video updates like the last one? Video updates mean I would stream my playing to my justin.tv stream, and then post the recorded video here for anybody who didn't catch it.

Adding a poll for this.