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Author Topic: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread  (Read 881628 times)

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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8670 on: December 21, 2011, 07:54:20 pm »

Gender bullying in the classroom (cute article)

The gender gap and terrible statistics
Really neat on the first one, yep on the second one.

There are certain areas men are treated better than women and other areas where the reverse is true. Then there are other times when the statistics can be entirely misleading for an underlying reason.

Even for the sake of argument supposing: Women are beginning to be employed more than men.
Given, women on average make $0.75 to every dollar a man makes.
Given, businesses are cheap bastards who want to pay as little as possible for labor.
Possibility: The women are more likely to be employed now because the businesses know they can have a woman do the same job as a man for 3/4 the pay....

I wouldn't doubt it.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8671 on: December 21, 2011, 07:59:19 pm »

Interesting thing I heard from my mother recently, not sure how accurate.

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« Reply #8672 on: December 21, 2011, 10:43:21 pm »

I don't see the value in discussing research that shows women are doing better than males. We know they're not, so any study that shows the opposite must be critically flawed and debating studies that we know are critically flawed is a rather fruitless exercise.

So... in effect, you're saying that we've already decided what the truth is, therefore any new evidence should be immediately thrown out. That's the exact opposite of how scientific and empirical reasoning work, even in the social sciences!

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And even if there were a proper study that would show women are not getting shafted at some important part of life, why bring it up? The only thing it's going to do is to provide more ammunition for Men's Rights Activists...

Yes, why bring up any facts that show the gender situation to be more nuanced than "women have it bad and men have it great"?

Seriously, if there's evidence providing further insight into the nuances of gender politics and discrimination, it needs to at least be considered no matter how much it conflicts with ideas we already hold.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8673 on: December 21, 2011, 10:52:09 pm »

So thus the argument is pointless and proves both sides lose?

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« Reply #8674 on: December 21, 2011, 11:31:23 pm »

I have absolutely no idea what you mean by that, nor which "sides" you're referring to. I know I've asked this of you before without results, but would you mind elaborating?
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8675 on: December 21, 2011, 11:33:44 pm »

On the plus side, gays are finally getting their equal treatment in the military:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16297406

The first same-sex "traditional first kiss" in the Navy's history (12/21/2011)

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« Reply #8676 on: December 21, 2011, 11:56:06 pm »

That image made me smile like heck.  It's awesome... thanks for sharing :3
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8677 on: December 22, 2011, 01:24:40 am »

That's adorable. I've heard about that, as well as some neckbeards going "huh huh lesbians so hot" but hadn't seen it yet.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8679 on: December 22, 2011, 04:08:41 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/hearing-concludes-suspected-wikileaks-leaker-manning-183243291.html

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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8680 on: December 22, 2011, 04:25:08 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/hearing-concludes-suspected-wikileaks-leaker-manning-183243291.html

If it were up to me? I would find him guilty, but accept the time he has already served as punishment and release him. Then I would see what I could do to ensure the people responsible for his torture, and the perpetrators of the crimes he exposed, face the maximum possible punishment.

Let's stamp everything "Top Secret," and claim we're the land of the free without censorship. :)

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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8682 on: December 22, 2011, 05:03:41 pm »

What are you trying yo say? A racist got sentenced to jail. What's wrong with that? Apart from it being a ridiculously long time for burning down a building, but I guess that's the American way.
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« Reply #8683 on: December 22, 2011, 05:05:16 pm »

wrong thread, sorry
« Last Edit: December 22, 2011, 05:09:13 pm by Sir Finkus »
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #8684 on: December 22, 2011, 05:07:06 pm »

What are you trying yo say? A racist got sentenced to jail. What's wrong with that? Apart from it being a ridiculously long time for burning down a building, but I guess that's the American way.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. Its a topic that may be worthy of discussion in this progressive thread. Black churches are still getting burned in this country.
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