Isn't he basically saying that all men are rapists waiting to happen? While I can't disagree with him on that, it seems a bit unfair to cry misogynist! and not misandrist! at the same time.
Critics further point out that his writing is deeply offensive to other men who are being portrayed en masse as animals panting to rape; that men and women have sexual urges they control (plus, rape is generally about power, not sex); and that rape, a crime, shouldn't be lumped in with cheating or tweeting dick-shots.
You can join Nikki Junker and With More Than Purpose in asking Scott Adams for a public apology to "boys, men, rape victims and all women" by signing the petition here.
I suspect you need to read the article while less tired =)
So, males are just scum who can be hit at will, abused or called names and we're not allowed to do or say anything about it? That's why I'm not dating anyone ATM. Oh sorry I'm just "mansplaining" so I'll STFU now.
I understand that you're hurt, but you are really driving me bonkers right now.
No one in this thread is out to attack you. I already said that I would never use the word "mansplaining." Furthermore, I have already explained how gender roles hurt both sides and, I believe, offered my condolences. If I haven't then... well, I'm sorry that certain parts of being a man suck so much. I really, really am.
But don't attack feminism for this. The current wave of feminism is on your side, rather than against you, and it's not likely to turn around and regress.
This doesn't apply to all feminists, obviously, but I'm not ever going to be anything but hostile toward the radical second-wavers because they will never be anything but hostile to me. And radical second-wavers is the feeling I got from that PSA's description.
They're radical third-wavers, who are called "progressivists" rather than "feminists" because they call for liberation for all people from unnecessary norms and roles in society. Many progressivists no longer use the word "patriarchy" in favor of "kyriarchy," which describes an entire hierarchy of valuation of different groups, not necessarily run by all men as a general rule.
Second-wavers would have agreed with him. Second-wavers would have never asked for an apology to men.
I have no idea how you got the impression that the writers of that article were hostile to anyone but, say, Scott Adams and rapists. If there's some reason why you think otherwise, I'd be curious to hear it.
For example I just googled "female depression" and got 60 million hits, and "male depression" and got 6 million hits. Even though males are 4 times more likely to kill themselves. Admittedly changing that to "suicide" did reverse things (due to the number of successful male suicides) but you'd think that depression would be a pre-requisite of actually committing suicide, and male depression would be worth some sort of research.
Women experience (unipolar) depression disorders with an incidence rate twice that of men; it's suspected that it's also harder to uproot. Oh, and only folks with female bodies get postpartum depression, which tends to be discussed pretty thoroughly on baby-making forums.
Female depression is also an offshoot of Freud's infamous "female hysteria," in which any (upper-class, white, etc.) woman who was unhappy in her role in society or failed to perfectly confirm to servile gender norms was sent off to the psychologist to be fixed. Because her uterus must have been driving her crazy.
That said, I'd be cool with the entire human race having equal ownership of touchy-feely crap. Dudes get better psychological care, women get better health care--yeah, I'd be behind that all the way. Doesn't even have to be a tit for tat thing, but I'm kind of inordinately pissed about health care over here right now.
Sweden already criminalized striptease if I'm remembering correctly, so that isn't very surprising.
Eh, I kind of agree with the criminalization of (paying) striptease. To me, it seems like a step in the right direction (if only one that should be upheld temporarily), provided that there's enough job market for women outside of sex work.
This is basically saying voluntary sex is rape by definition! Who wants to live like that?
Between men and women, yeah... gay sex is fine. Hurf.
I kind of suspect that it's just the Assange case, and the only reason why they're perpetuating such absurdities over it is because the US government really wants him convicted. That's what I hope, anyway, rather than that Sweden has gone too far with second-wavism and now they've got the opposite problem to before.
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