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[Sordid]

I'm starting to think they don't actually have a new engine.

I never did buy this "new engine" baloney.

[Rose]

Yeah, I haven't read much about Skyrim, but I clearly remember one of the interviews/articles stating that cities will have their own worldspaces.

I'm kinda ambivalent on the issue, actually. Separate worldspaced does mean they can make the cities larger on the inside without taking up too much space on the "true" world map. Towns in games are always so pitifully small. A smithy, two inns and one general store in the whole capital? Quite the metropole indeed.

So yeah, that's a break from "realism" I would willingly make to have cities that actually look something like large settlements, if not quite town-like.

That ain't the reason for seperate maps at all. Oblivion's cities were the same size on the inside as they were on the outside. They do this for performance reasons.

As a matter of point, there's a mod that brings the cities into the worldmap, and they look exactly the same. Performance is also fine, though there is increased memory usage, which the consoles can't handle.

[scriver]

Yeah, I haven't read much about Skyrim, but I clearly remember one of the interviews/articles stating that cities will have their own worldspaces.

I'm kinda ambivalent on the issue, actually. Separate worldspaced does mean they can make the cities larger on the inside without taking up too much space on the "true" world map. Towns in games are always so pitifully small. A smithy, two inns and one general store in the whole capital? Quite the metropole indeed.

So yeah, that's a break from "realism" I would willingly make to have cities that actually look something like large settlements, if not quite town-like.

That ain't the reason for seperate maps at all. Oblivion's cities were the same size on the inside as they were on the outside. They do this for performance reasons.

Never said it was "the" reason for it, in Oblivion, Skyrim or any other game - I know it isn't. The point was that that could be a positive side of having separate world spaces, it they want it too. In my eyes, there's little reason to having them the same size if you won't be able to travel seamlessly between them anyway.

I never did buy this "new engine" baloney.

From what I get out from reading between the lines (and it might just be my negativity showing itself, mind you) it's technically a new engine, but it works much like the old one. A more modern, re-made version of it, you could say.

[Supercharazad]

Digitgrade legs in Morrowind were neat (except maybe their animation), put me down as another fan wanting them to return in Skyrim.

As long as they refrain from giving Argonian females breats I'll be happy, though. I mean seriously, why on Earth would a race that lays eggs have breats?!

Yeah, it's a bit nitpicky, and I guess it saved the modellers some time, but seriously it annoyed the hell out of me every time I met an Argonian female, especially after finding a note referencing 'hatchlings'

There was a scaled burrowing mammal. It breastfed it's children, but leyed eggs. Why shouldn;t agronians be the same?
Note: This creature is extinct and I can't remember it's name :/

[Grakelin]

The reason Khajiit shouldn't have digitigrade legs is because they are furries, whether anybody likes it or not, and furries are just hairy people with animal heads.

[Vherid]

The reason Khajiit shouldn't have digitigrade legs is because they are furries, whether anybody likes it or not, and furries are just hairy people with animal heads.

Beg to differ

[Virtz]

There was a scaled burrowing mammal. It breastfed it's children, but leyed eggs. Why shouldn;t agronians be the same?
Note: This creature is extinct and I can't remember it's name :/

There's a good reason.

Although seriously, the more unique they are compared to the other races, the better, as far as I'm concerned. I don't get why people would want breasts on Argonians other than to defend the developers' laziness.

The reason Khajiit shouldn't have digitigrade legs is because they are furries, whether anybody likes it or not, and furries are just hairy people with animal heads.

...what?

[Sordid]

Although seriously, the more unique they are compared to the other races, the better, as far as I'm concerned. I don't get why people would want breasts on Argonians other than to defend the developers' laziness.

Well they are tits. Almost everything is better with tits, especially if you're a fifteen year old console gamer retard.

[Cecilff2]

Yeah Oblivion changed things around...it's not like argonians had breasts in Daggerf...oh wait.
Maybe they changed it from Are...nope.

Must be a lazy modelling decision.

[Scaraban]

Although seriously, the more unique they are compared to the other races, the better, as far as I'm concerned. I don't get why people would want breasts on Argonians other than to defend the developers' laziness.

Well they are tits. Almost everything is better with tits, especially if you're a fifteen year old console gamer retard.

Well thanks for profiling me in with whatever traumatic experience you had with console gamers as a child, but it may startle you to know that not everyone has a PC good enough to run modern games at a decent FPS.

[Sordid]

Well thanks for profiling me in with whatever traumatic experience you had with console gamers as a child, but it may startle you to know that not everyone has a PC good enough to run modern games at a decent FPS.

What startles me is that people would buy consoles rather than invest that money into making their PCs better. Let's not get bogged down in the console vs PC debate, though.

[Virtz]

Yeah Oblivion changed things around...it's not like argonians had breasts in Daggerf...oh wait.
Maybe they changed it from Are...nope.

Must be a lazy modelling decision.

Har-har.

Everything looked like slightly altered humans in Arena as well, but I don't see people asking for a return to Argonians and Khajiits looking like cos-players. And there was barely any lore to speak of. Up until Morrowind the setting had been getting more complex and unique. Oblivion feels like a regression from having the races be more unique to making them more homogeneous.

EDIT: And however you look at it, it's always easier when all the races are skeletally the same, most notably for the animators (and neither Arena nor Daggerfall had third-person view).

[Sordid]

And however you look at it, it's always easier when all the races are skeletally the same, most notably for the animators (and neither Arena nor Daggerfall had third-person view).

They did have paper dolls, though. Having argonian females without breasts would've required a separate set of upper body clothing sprites.

[Virtz]

And however you look at it, it's always easier when all the races are skeletally the same, most notably for the animators (and neither Arena nor Daggerfall had third-person view).

They did have paper dolls, though. Having argonian females without breasts would've required a separate set of upper body clothing sprites.

Well, that too, but considering how they stuck flat masks onto Argonian faces, I don't think they'd have a problem with putting breasted shirts on breastless torsos.

[Rex_Nex]

Mmm, longest discussion on reptilian breasts I have come across in quite a while.