Lol, Native is such a bandwagoner. While Zath is dead, you can't be bothered to make a case on me, but as soon as he's back you're sooooo fired up and ready? I hope someone else can see this crap.
PFP, real post in the morning.
This is the exact kind of thing I was talking about. Jokerman trying to hurt my credibility with more nonsense. Heads up, bud: It's not a bandwagon if I was still after you when Zath was dead, it's simply resuming my suspicions. There was only a pause because Zath coming back from the dead wasn't exactly something to ignore. Like you said, I hope someone else can see this crap.
This, of course, brings me back to Native. Please reference the post where I first voted you. Did you miss it the first time?
Glad you could get back to me. I didn't miss it, I just forgot to get to it. First off, in my defense for voting Jokerman after you brought it up, it had simply slipped my mind to actually cast a vote on him. When you brought it up, I realized that and cast the vote. You might see that as icing, understandable, but I don't see the cake.
Could you explain how the post you mentioned had set off bells for you?
NativeForeigner: If Pandarsenic's claim leads me to not block him, I'm blocking you. I didn't feel like what you did - or did not do - during day 1 was townie behavior.
You didn't commit to much during D1, other then your undying hatred for Jokerman. Please give your read on everybody. {Everybody} includes lurkers.
If you're worried about my night skill, I'll recite a haiku for you if it makes you feel better, I didn't even use my night skill last time.
As for my reads,
Jokerman is the scummiest out of all of them in my opinion. His arguments against me hold little weight and he's trying desperately to ruin my credibility. Which I find suspicious because he only did so after I chose to continue against him even after Zathras' death. He must not have liked that I still thought he could've been scum and he still hasn't successfully disproved or proved anything.
Toaster is giving Jokerman an unusual amount of support without much original or strong support for this decision. It happened right after I voted for Jokerman. While he says it was a scummy move, he hasn't said much else to support himself which leads me to believe he could be scum along with Jokerman.
Org continues to be utterly useless, but otherwise not a huge target.
Ottofar is about as useful as Org right now, even after surviving the modkill, he hasn't done much. I can't tell if he's uninterested or busy town, or shy scum. It looks like he might be starting to try, though.
Argembarger hasn't said much, either, but he's had a few good posts. Other than the inactivity, he's not really scummy.
Archangel brought a little suspicion to himself with the bold move he pulled by ending the day early. However, because Pandar didn't actually flip, it's difficult to tell whether it was a hasty move by scum or a bold (maybe foolish) move by town.
Pandar, until his roleclaim comes about, will remain suspicious to me for his little revival act.
MBP apparently voted for himself D1, which is strange, but he hasn't been excessively scummy.
IronyOwl has been keeping his posts short and sweet D2. I feel his buddying towards Zath on D1 was way overblown and he hasn't been scummy otherwise.
Zathras might actually be town now, it seems plausible enough but Toaster's strategy might be the only real way to tell. His willingness to be blocked adds some credibility, but it could also be some sort of ruse. For now, I'm still wary of him, but I'm more concerned with the bullshit Joker's trying to pull to linger on Zathras.
You have been scumhunting here and there, haven't been lingering on individuals, and your roleclaim seems interesting. If it turns out to be true, you could be a valuable asset to town, but it wouldn't guarantee you townhood.
Native:
1. I'm sorry, how is it a "BS campaign" if it's true? And why is the only other option to OMGUS Zathras? Either you're attempting to create a false dichotomy, which is possible, or you're an idiot. I'm still waiting for you to prove my claims wrong, kid. All you've done is cry that my arguments are bullshit (with no reasoning as to why), waffle over voting me, and then cry some more.
2. Show me the cop outs you're pointing to. If my roleclaim[/i] wasn't enough evidence for you, and my daykill that lost me my Vigilante kill[/i] doesn't do it for you, then golly gee whiz, what fucking will?
3. "As far as you're concerned"? Hahahaha, it's not concerned with you! I'm not trying to convince you that you're scum; I'm trying to show everyone else. This entire section of your post is just a mess of "no u" and "I don't see the merit in your argument" even though you've been trying to argue against it and failing.
I know you're scum, and I intend to see you hang today.
Oh really? Is that so? So you admit to sidelining and refusing to go after someone you "know" is scum? How is that not harmful to town? Because you said yourself, you didn't really feel like going after me once Zathras died. You actually only moved your vote to me after you were questioned on it. Then you voted Zathras (a move to appear pro-town, probably) until you saw that he was voting me - and then it's safe for you to start the bandwagon? If you "knew" I was scum, then why would you vote for anyone else?
NativeForeigner needs to die.
1) It's a BS campaign because it's
not true. It seems like a huge OMGUS to me because I wouldn't let you off the hook after Zathras flipped and poor little Jokerman didn't like that. QQ some more, please. Which claims are you talking about? Because I can't seem to recall any I didn't argue against. I'm still waiting for you to prove
my claims wrong. So far you've only given shit for evidence. You have yet to prove that you aren't scum or a third party, only that the chance that anyone is anything ever other that town is slim. That doesn't prove shit.
2) I'm sorry, but a roleclaim's just a roleclaim, there's no way for you to prove it. And even if you could prove you were a vigilante, that doesn't prove your townhood. There's been scum vigilante before. In fact, if I recall correctly, it was
you. The copouts I've been talking about are your half-assed arguments. You're more interested in hurting my credibility than arguing against my claims against you.
3) There's that silly little thing you do when someone's on to you again, you get sarcastic, bash on the other person, and try desperately to defend yourself and while discrediting them some more. The only person who seems to think "I've been failing" is you, and of course YOU'RE not going admit I'm right.
I never admitted to sidelining, learn to read. I said I wasn't going to chase you because I didn't want it to turn into this. Something between you and me where we leave everyone else out. I wanted to question other people and bring more into the fray rather than 1v1ing you because nothing gets accomplished that way. Furthermore, I didn't
know you were scum, I never claimed to. I only claimed that I believed you to be scummy. I've only come to the conclusion that you are, indeed, scum during these recent arguments of ours. I mean it, learn to fucking read, seriously. And I didn't move my vote, it wasn't on anyone previously. I voted for Zath because he came back to life and was a confirmed SK. He was the obvious vote and I went for it until he defended himself, which he did. He's not off the hook, but I no longer know for sure if he's an anti-town role. So I resumed going after you, whom I know almost definitely to be scum. In short, if you know someone to have JUST flipped SK, why WOULDN'T you vote for them? So I did, he defended himself, and I went back to you.
Please, spew more bullshit my way.